HDHomerun, TWC, and scanning channels (1 Viewer)

[bsell1]

Can somebody help me out here or link me to a thread that covers this situation. I have a HD Homerun dual and Time Warner Cable. I get basic cable that does not require a cable box. I can get the channels to show up, but they are all red as opposed to green. Is there a certain combination of tuning mode and QAM tuning frequencies that I should be using to get these to show up green and accessible? Any help would be appreciated.

 

[mm1352000]

Hello and welcome!

Can somebody help me out here or link me to a thread that covers this situation.

http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_...rver_Configuration/02_TV_Servers/7b_Scan_ATSC

I have a HD Homerun dual and Time Warner Cable. I get basic cable that does not require a cable box.

So as the wiki says: you should scan with mode set to "clear QAM cable" and start with frequency plan "QAM standard".

I can get the channels to show up, but they are all red as opposed to green.

Which means they're encrypted. Not surprising for TW. I thought they were pretty close to having everything encrypted?

Is there a certain combination of tuning mode and QAM tuning frequencies that I should be using to get these to show up green and accessible?

As above. If a channel is really encrypted then scanning it a different way won't help. Your only choices to get such channels would be:

1. Get a CableCARD tuner and hope the channels are copy freely.
2. Get a CableCARD tuner and use it with WMC.
3. Get a cable set top box and connect it to a capture card (eg. Hauppauge HD-PVR).

mm

 

[bsell1]

Well, thanks for the answer. However, I am confused and maybe you can explain this to me. I do not have a cable box, but when the cable is plugged into my tv, I get CNN, HGTV, DISC, HLN, all the basic cable channels. These channels do not appear to be encrypted, since they are not going through a decoder on my end. Obviously I am missing something here. Can you or anybody else help out?

 

[mm1352000]

Can you or anybody else help out?

Yes. That is called "clear QAM". Clear = not encrypted. QAM = the modulation system used to broadcast on cable.
They're normal cable channels. Only difference is that they aren't encrypted like the other channels. Anything that can be received by your TV can be received by your HDHomeRun.

 

[bsell1]

mm1352000, thanks for the answer, but it really doesn't help me out. The poster above says it is not possible, you say it is. Who is right, and how do I get the channels to show up?

 

[2BitSculptor]

Can you scan the channels using the HDHomerun setup program? and then can you play the channels using the provided player? Once that is established, then you will know if they are truly Clear QAM. If you are having difficulty at that stage, then contact the Silicon Dust forum for help.

I use the HDHomerun Dual (two of them, in fact) for over the air broadcast, so I can't help with specifics on cable connection. (sorry). But if your cable channels are truly Clear QAM, then you should be able to scan them in and view them using MediaPortal TV Service.

 

[mm1352000]

The poster above says it is not possible, you say it is.

I am both people!
Sorry, I don't mean to be confusing.
What I said was if a channel is really encrypted then you're not going to be able to use your HDHR to view it. I stand by that.
Assuming your TV doesn't have a CableCARD or some other means to decrypt channels, I also stand by my statement: anything that can be received by your TV can be received by your HDHomeRun.

Who is right...

I am since I'm both people.
More seriously, there are two possibilities that I can think of as to why you're not seeing the channels you're looking for:

1. If you haven't scanned correctly then there's a possibility the channels you're looking for simply haven't been picked up.
2. There's a slim possibility TV Server hasn't correctly detected the encryption status for the channels. In other words, they'd be in your list but incorrectly marked as encrypted.

...and how do I get the channels to show up?

If I were you I would delete all channels and start over fresh, following the recommendations in the wiki.
This in particular:
http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_...V_Servers/7b_Scan_ATSC#QAM_tuning_frequencies

In other words:

1. Delete the channels from the TV Channels and Radio Channels sections.
2. Start a new scan with mode set to "clear QAM cable" and frequency plan "QAM standard".
3. Let the scan run all the way through. It should take about 20 minutes.

If you still don't see your channels with that scan, the other things you could do that would help are:

1. Tell us your zip code so we can look up the TW lineup for your area. This will [hopefully] allow us to figure out the real names for "Unknown..." channels.
   
2. Post your log files so we can double check what you're seeing.
   1. Open TV Server configuration.
   2. Click "open log directory" in the top left corner.
   3. Zip up all the files in that folder and post/attach the zip file here.

mm

 

[bsell1]

thanks, I didn't realize the posts were from the same person. I will try this again, but I have already done the first part of your post, and deleted and rescan, but I will try it again. By the way, I am in the Arlington, Tx area, zip 76016.[DOUBLEPOST=1406509124][/DOUBLEPOST]By the way, is it possible that Syfy, CNN, HGTV, etc are actually analog signals and that is why they are not being picked up?

 

[mm1352000]

By the way, is it possible that Syfy, CNN, HGTV, etc are actually analog signals and that is why they are not being picked up?

That is a possibility if TW still have analog cable in your area. Can your TV tell you what type of signal it is receiving?

Unfortunately the website I usually use for checking clear QAM channels doesn't have TW's lineup for your area. TW's website also doesn't give technical details about the lineup... so it's a bit tricky to figure out what is happening.