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    So I'm not sure what is going on. For the record I am using MediaPortal 1.22 with MP-TVSeries and MovingPicture.

    6+ months ago, I replaced my TV with a 4K screen. I never bothered watching 4K videos because most movies do fine in 1080p - I personally think they should stop adding more pixels and add more frames. But I'm a big Gunnm fan, and when "Alita: Battle Angel" came out I bought the 4K BD version and ripped it as an x265 MKV to my fileserver. I spun up the resolution on my HTPC Windows 7 box to make sure the NVidia card, Amplifier, and TV were happy with the new resolution, waited until MovingPicture had added the movie to its database, and started the playback.

    Unwatchable - so much jerkiness and dropped frames, sometimes it gets so bad even the audio cuts out. Damn. :eek:

    First thought: my wi-fi network isn't fast enough to cope with 4K and everything else which may be going on. Rig a cat6 cable to the HTPC, swap network over from Wi-Fi to Ethernet, fire up the movie again... nope, same problem. :(



    Second thoughts: My (Gb) network really isn't fast enough. Copy the file locally to the HTPC's hard drive and try again using the local file. And a great big nope again. :mad:

    Out of desperation, I quit out of MP1.22, spin up MediaPlayerClassic... and get flawless playback on the local file in 4K. :confused:

    So, can anyone tell me what may be causing MP1.22 to choke on this video file when MPC plays it without a problem? :coffee:
     
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    What's the video card?
    I'd be looking to see if it supported the H.265 stuff...
    Also - LAV filters installed?
     
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    Check also that LAV filters are the latest version (0.74.1) there have been problems with both the MP Extension Manager and MP Install downloading an old version see here for further info.
     
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    MediaPortal: 1.22
    LAV Filters: 0.74.1
    Graphics Card: nVidia GeForce GTX 650

    Video card does not appear to have any problem when MKV is played though MPC-HC 1.5.3.3856
    Also, I have previously watched quite a few x265 TV episodes through MP-TVSeries without a problem
     
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    maybe a lav codec settings is not correct. mphc has its own lav built-in, can be found in the MPHC Options menu the Video Codec button to compare if you like ... also a mediainfo of the film would also be very helpful, maybe it's a 10-bit hdr....

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    Further to that if you want to compare apples with apples deselect all the MPC-HC internal filters and add Lav audio,video,splitter and splitter source to the external filters then it will be using the same Lav install/setup as MP
     
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    Here is the MediaInfo for Alita

    General
    Unique ID : 326018620208809476813185308321824719561 (0xF544E6FDB58FE90AC538A239AB5D42C9)
    Complete name : \\192.168.0.14\Movie\A\Alita\Alita - Battle Angel (2019).mkv
    Format : Matroska
    Format version : Version 4
    File size : 13.2 GiB
    Duration : 2 h 1 min
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 15.5 Mb/s
    Writing application : mkvmerge v35.0.0 ('All The Love In The World') 64-bit
    Writing library : libebml v1.3.9 + libmatroska v1.5.2

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : HEVC
    Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
    HDR format : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
    Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
    Duration : 2 h 1 min
    Bit rate : 9 705 kb/s
    Width : 3 840 pixels
    Height : 1 608 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
    Bit depth : 10 bits
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.066
    Stream size : 8.27 GiB (63%)
    Writing library : x265 3.1+4-4f6dde51a5db:[Windows][GCC 6.3.0][64 bit] 10bit
    Encoding settings : cpuid=1176575 / frame-threads=5 / numa-pools=36 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x1608 / interlace=0 / total-frames=175440 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=4 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / aud / hrd / info / hash=0 / no-temporal-layers / no-open-gop / min-keyint=1 / keyint=24 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=25 / lookahead-slices=4 / scenecut=40 / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=2 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / no-strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=3 / limit-modes / me=3 / subme=3 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / weightp / no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-3:-3 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=4 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / no-b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=1.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=crf / crf=17.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=0 / vbv-maxrate=160000 / vbv-bufsize=160000 / vbv-init=0.9 / crf-max=0.0 / crf-min=0.0 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=2 / aq-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=1 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=1 / chromaloc-top=2 / chromaloc-bottom=2 / display-window=0 / master-display=G(13250,34500)B(7500,3000)R(34000,16000)WP(15635,16450)L(10000000,1)cll=737,130 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr / hdr-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=5 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=0 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00
    Default : Yes
    Forced : No
    Color range : Limited
    Color primaries : BT.2020
    Transfer characteristics : PQ
    Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
    Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
    Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
    Maximum Content Light Level : 737 cd/m2
    Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 130 cd/m2

    Audio #1
    ID : 2
    Format : MLP FBA 16-ch
    Format/Info : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
    Commercial name : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
    Codec ID : A_TRUEHD
    Duration : 2 h 1 min
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 5 013 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 8 channels
    Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
    Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
    Compression mode : Lossless
    Stream size : 4.30 GiB (33%)
    Language : English
    Default : Yes
    Forced : No
    Number of dynamic objects : 13
    Bed channel count : 1 channel
    Bed channel configuration : LFE

    Audio #2
    ID : 3
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Commercial name : Dolby Digital
    Codec ID : A_AC3
    Duration : 2 h 1 min
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 640 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 6 channels
    Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
    Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 558 MiB (4%)
    Language : English
    Service kind : Complete Main
    Default : No
    Forced : No
     
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    For comparison, here is a x265 TV episode which displays without problems:
    General
    Unique ID : 23180202747849988758336285792112935342 (0x1170583B90E5EDD3DCA133D8AA7F01AE)
    Complete name : \\nas-002\TV_Series\E\Elementary\Season 7\11 - Unfriended.mkv
    Format : Matroska
    Format version : Version 4
    File size : 125 MiB
    Duration : 42 min 9 s
    Overall bit rate : 416 kb/s
    Writing application : Lavf57.56.101
    Writing library : Lavf57.56.101
    ErrorDetectionType : Per level 1

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : HEVC
    Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Format profile : Main@L3.1@Main
    Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
    Duration : 42 min 9 s
    Bit rate : 1 973 kb/s
    Width : 1 280 pixels
    Height : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Variable
    Frame rate : 23.976 FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.089
    Stream size : 595 MiB
    Title : MiNX - Small HD episodes
    Writing library : x265 0.0:[Linux][GCC 6.3.0][64 bit] 8bit+10bit+12bit
    Encoding settings : wpp / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / max-tu-size=32 / tu-intra-depth=1 / tu-inter-depth=1 / me=1 / subme=2 / merange=57 / no-rect / no-amp / max-merge=2 / temporal-mvp / early-skip / rskip / rdpenalty=0 / no-tskip / no-tskip-fast / strong-intra-smoothing / no-lossless / no-cu-lossless / no-constrained-intra / fast-intra / open-gop / no-temporal-layers / interlace=0 / keyint=250 / min-keyint=23 / scenecut=40 / rc-lookahead=15 / lookahead-slices=4 / bframes=4 / bframe-bias=0 / b-adapt=0 / ref=2 / limit-refs=3 / no-limit-modes / weightp / no-weightb / aq-mode=1 / qg-size=32 / aq-strength=1.00 / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rd=2 / psy-rd=2.00 / rdoq-level=0 / psy-rdoq=0.00 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / no-rd-refine / signhide / deblock=0:0 / sao / no-sao-non-deblock / b-pyramid / cutree / no-intra-refresh / rc=crf / crf=24.1 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30
    Default : Yes
    Forced : No

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AAC LC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
    Codec ID : A_AAC-2
    Duration : 42 min 9 s
    Bit rate : 384 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel layout : L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 116 MiB (92%)
    Title : MiNX - Small HD episodes
    Writing library : Lavc57.64.101 aac
    Default : Yes
    Forced : No
     
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    Haven't modified MPC yet to retry. I will be able to get to it sometime in the next 36-48 hours. Sorry.
     
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