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hamheed

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Hi Frodo...

I did send your hotmail account a message last night, but maybe it got blocked or messed up... Ill try again shortly... Sorry about that!
 

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    Hamheed some small things:

    1. this version doesnt yet support animations.
    open bluetwo skin / settings.xml for an example

    it would be great if you could add support for it.
    If you need info on how it works, just ask me


    2.this version misses the facadeview control
    open bluetwo skin / myvideo.xml for an example
    If you need info on how it works, just ask me

    it would be great if the editor supported those and
    if you could actually see/modify these controls in the big view
    window on their correct places


    Frodo
     

    hamheed

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    Frodo,

    The animation support is there, but on a group basis... So taking your example in the blue two skin on the settings page. Open the page in the editor and select the group, it will default in the top left corner right now (which is another bug I am fixing right now)... In any case, select the group and look at the property window. There is a property dropdown called Animation with a list of some animations. I think I have all of the animations, but Ill check the MP source code to see if you have added more... Is this what you were looking for??? Or do you want to editor to do the animations????

    The facade view support is there, but its actually really bad right now... Ill work on that, and have something better in the next release, as the Facade View is an important control and used in a lot of screens.

    One more item... I will soon be posting the releases online so I will not have to email them out anymore... Ill post a message and link as soon as things are setup.
     

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    Hamheed
    thanks for your quick response.
    I noticed indeed that there is a little box representing the
    facadeview or animation

    It would be grate it you could actually edit and preview the facadeview
    so what i mean is:
    1. draw /view and edit facade view on its correct place
    2. be able to switch between list/icon/filmstrip view and skin each part

    About animations, i dont think its necessary to really do them in the editor
    But again it would be nice if we could edit/preview every control
    which is placed in an animation
    so :
    1. draw /view and edit every control (which is placed within an animation)
    on its correct position

    again, great work!
    Regards

    Frodo
     

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    I haven't seen it yet, but based on the other posts I too give it a thumbs up. A tool like this will prove to be VERY useful for skin developers.
     

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    Here are some small things i noticed:

    1. If i place a new media file in the skin\[skinname]\media folder then
    i cannot use that. I'll have to restart the editor

    2. copy and paste

    -I would like to have the default shortcuts CTRL+C, CTRL+V etc
    -the pasted control is placed on the exact same location. Better would
    be to place it a little bit down&right of the copied control so you
    see the new pasted control immediatly

    3. label control
    - When i type in to much text in a label control it simply disappears?

    4. I cannot insert controls
    I can drag & drop a new control into my window,
    but nice would be a edit->insert new control where i can select the control type (also accesible from the context menu)

    5. Tab
    It would be nice when editing a screen that tab moves to the next control
    and shift+tab to the previous control

    6. Missing controls
    i miss the following controls:
    - button3part
    - imagelist
    - slider
    - statusbar
    - textbox
    - textboxscrollup
    - checklistcontrol

    7. When typing in a new text for a button/label etc
    it would be nice to have an option so the next text is automaticly
    added in strings.xml with a new id

    8. 'grouped' controls
    it would be nice if one could actually edit /skin the subcontrols of a facade view. Meaning when editting a facade view control you select
    ' edit listcontrol' .The editor should then shows the facade view
    as a listcontrol which you then edit/skin.
    Offcourse for a facade view you should be able to edit / skin:
    - the listcontrol
    - the thumbnail panel
    - the filmstrip

    9 Animations.
    Same as the facadeview. It would be nice if you could actually see & edit the controls which are within an animation

    10 textarea control:
    The textarea control doesnt handle multi lines.
    So if i type in a text 'row1\nrow\n\row3\n"
    then it should show this as:
    row1
    row2
    row3

    But it doesnt.

    Frodo
     

    hamheed

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    Thanks for the feedback frodo! See my comments below...

    1. If i place a new media file in the skin\[skinname]\media folder then i cannot use that. I'll have to restart the editor.
    You are correct, however there is a built in method for adding a new file to the skin you are currently working. For example, if you wish to add a new image to your skin, and this image file exists somewhere on your harddrive, but not in the skin directory, you simply have to do the following. Right click on Images folder in the Skin Explorer, and select Add... Then Select Add Existing... A file browser dialog will appear... Select the image file you wish to add to your skin, then click OK. The same thing applies to screen.xml files!

    2. Copy and Paste

    -I would like to have the default shortcuts CTRL+C, CTRL+V etc
    -the pasted control is placed on the exact same location. Better would
    be to place it a little bit down&right of the copied control so you
    see the new pasted control immediatly
    Coming soon... And I like your idea of slightly offsetting the pasted control. I will also be adding CTRL+X support so that you can cut a control, then paste it back into another group.

    3. label control
    - When i type in to much text in a label control it simply disappears?
    Interesting... I just tried recreating this one, and am not sure why this is happening... Will definitely look into this though...

    4. I cannot insert controls
    I can drag & drop a new control into my window,
    but nice would be a edit->insert new control where i can select the control type (also accesible from the context menu)
    You are correct, right now, you can only add controls to your screen by dragging them from the Explorer window. And just to let you know, you can drag the controls onto the main screen, or into any group, and the new control will appear in the appropriate place. I was thinking that this would be sufficient, however, adding it to the context menu (or even main menu) would not be that difficult to implement. Ill keep it on the feature list...

    5. Tab
    It would be nice when editing a screen that tab moves to the next control
    and shift+tab to the previous control
    Ill see what I can do about adding keyboard shortcuts [tab] for this, but one thing I do have implemented, is that you can move to the next control by using the mouse wheel... Scrolling down with the wheel moves to the next control, and scrolling up moves to the previous control. Right now, it will only scroll through controls in the current group, but I can modify this so that it becomes a simple way to scroll through all the controls on the screen.

    6. Missing controls
    i miss the following controls:
    - button3part
    - imagelist
    - slider
    - statusbar
    - textbox
    - textboxscrollup
    - checklistcontrol
    You are correct here... I have not implemented all of the controls. If the editor does not understand a certain control, it will still let you edit a screen that contains this control. I call these unknown controls, and they show up in the Control list with a grey icon. Unknown controls can still be editted using the Tags property inside the Properties window... With this, you can at least change the values of the tags that make up the control. Also, for the button3part, I have something in the works for this... The textbox does exist, but its called TextArea, or is the textarea something different??? Quick question for you though... Is there any point in having both textbox and textboxscrollup, or can the scrollup just be an attribute for the existing textbox???

    7. When typing in a new text for a button/label etc
    it would be nice to have an option so the next text is automaticly
    added in strings.xml with a new id
    Again, interesting idea... Ill have to give some though to this... But maybe we can have some a setting in the preferences to turn this feature on/off...

    8. Facade View
    it would be nice if one could actually edit /skin the subcontrols of a facade view. Meaning when editting a facade view control you select
    ' edit listcontrol' .The editor should then shows the facade view
    as a listcontrol which you then edit/skin.
    Offcourse for a facade view you should be able to edit / skin:
    - the listcontrol
    - the thumbnail panel
    - the filmstrip
    Yes... Definitely.... And in the works... Ill send out details on this shortly, but I think its going to be pretty slick how this work :)

    9 Animations and Groups
    Same as the facadeview. It would be nice if you could actually see & edit the controls which are within an animation
    This is now done... Animations are enabled on a group basis.... So now you can create a group, add controls to it, then set the Animation Property to change how the group will appear on the screen when loaded. Groups are actually pretty powerful now and give you the option set and use different layout styles. Using the traditional grid layout, you can simply move the controls inside the group around using the mouse or keyboard. Using the Vertical Flow style, all the controls are positioned for you in a nice vertical list... Very helful for creating menus...

    10 textarea control:
    The textarea control doesnt handle multi lines.
    So if i type in a text 'row1\nrow\n\row3\n"
    then it should show this as:
    row1
    row2
    row3
    But it doesnt.
    Known bug... Ill fix it up for the next release...

    The new release will come out shortly addressing some bugs, and adding support for a few more features and controls. I am also in the progress of setting up a website, where I will be hosting the releases of the editor as well as the documentation.

    Ok, I think that's it for now...
     

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    Some more

    - auto number ids (optional, very handy for new screens)

    I've also noticed that sometimes 'things get lost'
    for example i made a screen with several checkboxes on it
    and left-aligned those.

    When saving the skin, exiting the editor
    and then restarting the editor they where back to right aligned

    Frodo
     

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