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Ah, the open-source fanatics have finally arrived.

If you're referring to VS2005 Express being free, well FYI, even before VS2005 Express was free MP used VS (even VS2003 before that). So the fact that VS2005 express was free was never a factor. Also MS-SQL 2000 (MSDE) was also available free before that (although we didn't use it). It would be extremely unlikely for Microsoft to pull MS-SQL 2005 Express and future versions, but in any case, as has been mentioned, the framework allows the use of alternate databases with minimal changes.

By your theory, we shouldn't even be using .NET seeing as that's mostly proprietary. We should be taking advantage of WPF later either (open-source equivalent with the same amount of simplicity?).

You've tried SharpDevelop...of course, we could all just as well use notepad to code as well. VS2005 is way ahead of what SharpDevelop can offer in terms of ease-of-use and developer productivity. That said, SharpDevelop is coming along very well and works very well for small, simple projects.

I think its all a matter of using the best tools for the situation, and the MP developers have obviously chosen MS-SQL2005 Express and everything else because its a better tool for whatever reason. I don't think its necessary for everything to be so clear-cut - its not open-source against the world, in reality anyway.

Sam
p.s. I do not represent the developers around here.

<blockquote data-quote="samuel337" data-source="post: 85177" data-attributes="member: 10347">Ah, the open-source fanatics have finally arrived.If you're referring to VS2005 Express being free, well FYI, even before VS2005 Express was free MP used VS (even VS2003 before that). So the fact that VS2005 express was free was never a factor. Also MS-SQL 2000 (MSDE) was also available free before that (although we didn't use it). It would be extremely unlikely for Microsoft to pull MS-SQL 2005 Express and future versions, but in any case, as has been mentioned, the framework allows the use of alternate databases with minimal changes.By your theory, we shouldn't even be using .NET seeing as that's mostly proprietary. We should be taking advantage of WPF later either (open-source equivalent with the same amount of simplicity?).You've tried SharpDevelop...of course, we could all just as well use notepad to code as well. VS2005 is way ahead of what SharpDevelop can offer in terms of ease-of-use and developer productivity. That said, SharpDevelop is coming along very well and works very well for small, simple projects.I think its all a matter of using the best tools for the situation, and the MP developers have obviously chosen MS-SQL2005 Express and everything else because its a better tool for whatever reason. I don't think its necessary for everything to be so clear-cut - its not open-source against the world, in reality anyway.Samp.s. I do not represent the developers around here.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="samuel337, post: 85177, member: 10347"] Ah, the open-source fanatics have finally arrived. If you're referring to VS2005 Express being free, well FYI, even before VS2005 Express was free MP used VS (even VS2003 before that). So the fact that VS2005 express was free was never a factor. Also MS-SQL 2000 (MSDE) was also available free before that (although we didn't use it). It would be extremely unlikely for Microsoft to pull MS-SQL 2005 Express and future versions, but in any case, as has been mentioned, the framework allows the use of alternate databases with minimal changes. By your theory, we shouldn't even be using .NET seeing as that's mostly proprietary. We should be taking advantage of WPF later either (open-source equivalent with the same amount of simplicity?). You've tried SharpDevelop...of course, we could all just as well use notepad to code as well. VS2005 is way ahead of what SharpDevelop can offer in terms of ease-of-use and developer productivity. That said, SharpDevelop is coming along very well and works very well for small, simple projects. I think its all a matter of using the best tools for the situation, and the MP developers have obviously chosen MS-SQL2005 Express and everything else because its a better tool for whatever reason. I don't think its necessary for everything to be so clear-cut - its not open-source against the world, in reality anyway. Sam p.s. I do not represent the developers around here. [/QUOTE]