Movies with different versions? (1 Viewer)

[MeMeMe]

Is there a way to handle movies with different versions?
Salt (2010) for example, has a theatrical cut, director's cut, and extended cut, each of which has significant differences and endings. But Moving pictures only recognises one movie.
How would I have them show up as different films?

 

[Holzi]

AW: Movies with different versions?

What exactly do you mean? Do you have one file and three different editions in it and you want to choose between them? At the moment this is not possible I think but its already implemented in MePo 1.2.0 BETA which should be released very soon. You need Haali Splitter for that!

Link to the patch -> https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/submit-code-patches-mediaportal-tv-server-etc-325/patch-edition-support-haali-86214/#post654003

 

[SilentException]

I think he's saying he has three different files (versions) of the movie. I have similar here:

Salt (2010) [Theatrical Cut].avi
Salt (2010) [Extended Edition].avi
...

But that produces only two items named "Salt (2010)" in Moving Pictures. Hard to distinguish between the two. It gets worse with more editions. I'm not sure how to properly handle this at the moment. You can probably update titles manually in configuration but I think you would loose the changes on updates..

Also, star this: Issue 322 - moving-pictures - Support Bonus Material / Alternate Versions - A movies plugin for the MediaPortal media center application. - Google Project Hosting

 

[Holzi]

AW: Movies with different versions?

Oh, okay.. then I've misunderstood. Sorry!

 

[RoChess]

The IMDb+ Scraper v3.1.3 now has support for this.

https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/...auto-rename-titles-group-more-v3-1-3-a-93838/

Example: "Salt (Director's Cut) (tt0944835).mkv" will be imported as "Salt (Director's Cut)" if you enable the option for this.

The current supported edition strings are "3D", "3D Edition", "Director's Cut", "Director's Cut Edition", "Extended", "Extended Edition", Unrated", and "Unrated Edition". The "Theatrical" string was left out on purpose as this would normally be the IMDb.com entry itself.

As shown in the example this only works if the (IMDb tt-ID) is also present in the filename (or NFO file). I kinda hacked this together by abusing the AKA field in the search node to pass on the filename value to the details node and had to prevent it messing up matching movies during the search node. Since it is a guaranteed match when the IMDb tt-ID is provided, I was able to add support for this.

PS: I also added in auto-rename, so that you can also finally group movies together on title.

Example: "Casino Royale" becomes "James Bond 21: Casino Royale" so that it is shown in order with all the other movies in the James Bond serie.

 

[MeMeMe]

SilentException explainit it correctly.

Good to hear about your scraper RoChess, though it's a shame files need to be manually renamed. That auto-rename feature looks very cool, though the name field might be unreadable. Does that whole title get shown in mediaportal, or does it just use the full thing for sorting, and just display "Casino Royale"?

Is there a way to find NFO files for videos you've ripped yourself?

 

[RoChess]

SilentException explainit it correctly.

Good to hear about your scraper RoChess, though it's a shame files need to be manually renamed. That auto-rename feature looks very cool, though the name field might be unreadable. Does that whole title get shown in mediaportal, or does it just use the full thing for sorting, and just display "Casino Royale"?

Is there a way to find NFO files for videos you've ripped yourself?

Without some serious Artificial Intelligence there is always going to be a manual step required to have titles in a different way then what is available. The 'auto' part of the new rename method that I added is based on the import process itself, or more exactly when you refresh your collection. Information on a movie is constantly added or edited at imdb.com, such as adjustment of summaries, adding taglines, and especially more users voting to adjust the score/rating.

An enhancement is in the works that will allow you to configure that your collection is automatically refreshed by the scraper at say 60 days. I do it myself manually once every 90-180 days, but it was always a pain having to deal with all those title adjustments that I had done to my collection. Since I have custom categories for all my series, it makes it a little easier to identify when things screwed up, so I could rename them again, but it was still a pain in the ...

What did you mean name field might be unreadable? You mean that if you have a title such as "James Bond 21: Casino Royale" that you will only be able to see "James Bond 21: C" inside MovPic GUI? I guess you never experienced long titles before, because MovPic will scroll long titles automatic when you position yourself ontop of them, also most skins redisplay the title in a larger font at a location that allows for a much longer title to be displayed. I use B3W myself and even with adjusted fontsizes, I can show extremly long titles fine.

And my scraper inserts the full rename title in the database, which is what is shown inside config, and inside GUI. If you find some title renames that I used too long, then of course you are free to adjust them to your personal liking, you can even comment to the renames on the scraper thread (especially series I missed), and if enough people agree, I will make it part of the download.

As for NFO files, you would have to create those yourself, or rename your filenames. Filenames on FAT32 and NTFS can be 255 characters long, so that leaves plenty of room. If you burn your files onto CD/DVD and do not like the adjusted Joliet format, then you are restricted to 64-chars, but that is still plenty of room to include title + year + imdb_id. The title+year is actually more for human usage, because MovPic would only really need "tt1234567.avi" to work.

 

[MeMeMe]

SilentException explainit it correctly.
What did you mean name field might be unreadable? You mean that if you have a title such as "James Bond 21: Casino Royale" that you will only be able to see "James Bond 21: C" inside MovPic GUI?

Yes, that's what I meant. We have movies shown by list, so it's a long list of names, and can usually jump straight to the one we want.
Having a long list of "james Bond ...." wouldn't very readable.
If I could get the rest of the family to prefer one of the poster viewers, it would be less of an issue, but I can't

 

[RoChess]

SilentException explainit it correctly.
What did you mean name field might be unreadable? You mean that if you have a title such as "James Bond 21: Casino Royale" that you will only be able to see "James Bond 21: C" inside MovPic GUI?

Yes, that's what I meant. We have movies shown by list, so it's a long list of names, and can usually jump straight to the one we want.
Having a long list of "james Bond ...." wouldn't very readable.
If I could get the rest of the family to prefer one of the poster viewers, it would be less of an issue, but I can't

Well for me personally if I have people visiting and they want to watch James Bond in order, then it is a nightmare without modifications. As otherwise you would have to know the order from memory and jump all over your library to find them.

You could otherwise edit the rename-title file and instead of "James Bond 21: Casino Royale" use "JB21: Casino Royale", that way they still get sorted together, but then the titles will be easier to view in a skin that does not allow much room for titles. I could also modify the scraper to not adjust the title on these renames, but only the SortBy title. But that would create a very unnatural experience if you ask me in regards to scrolling through the list in alphabetical order and seeing the starting letter be all over the place.

But on the other hand, it is easy to modify skins, so you can create more horizontal space for your movie titles as well.