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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 885849" data-attributes="member: 82144">Hi again Cal Well, those logs are definitely helpful. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />When I look at the bit where the codecs are getting connected between TsReader and the renderers (very loosely speaking: hooking up the file to the display and speakers) everything seems to be fine: [collapse]2012-07-25 20:01:30.296875 [Info.][MPMain(1)]: VMR9: added Video Mixing Renderer 9 to graph 2012-07-25 20:01:30.312500 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: VMR9: SetDeinterlacePrefs() 2012-07-25 20:01:30.312500 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: VMR9: Enabled YUV mixing - No DX Error 2012-07-25 20:01:30.312500 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: VRM9: Turning on nonsquare mixing - No DX Error 2012-07-25 20:01:30.312500 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: VRM9: Set filter mode - None No DX Error 2012-07-25 20:01:30.312500 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: VMR9: Now active 2012-07-25 20:01:30.312500 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: VMR9: Renderer successfully added 2012-07-25 20:01:30.328125 [Info.][MPMain(1)]: Added filter: MPC - MPEG-2 Video Decoder (Gabest) to graph 2012-07-25 20:01:30.328125 [Info.][MPMain(1)]: Added filter: MPC - MPA Decoder Filter to graph 2012-07-25 20:01:30.328125 [Info.][MPMain(1)]: TSReaderPlayer: Render TsReader outputs 2012-07-25 20:01:30.328125 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: Filter: TsReader - try to connect: Audio 2012-07-25 20:01:30.328125 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: PlaneScene: PresentImage() dispose surfaces 2012-07-25 20:01:30.328125 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: PlaneScene: PresentImage() dispose surfaces 2012-07-25 20:01:30.328125 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: PlaneScene: PresentImage() dispose surfaces 2012-07-25 20:01:30.328125 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: PlaneScene: PresentImage() dispose surfaces 2012-07-25 20:01:30.343750 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: Filter: TsReader - try to connect: Video 2012-07-25 20:01:30.343750 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: PlaneScene: PresentImage() dispose surfaces 2012-07-25 20:01:30.359375 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: Filter: TsReader - try to connect: Subtitle 2012-07-25 20:01:30.359375 [Debug][MPMain(1)]:  - failed 2012-07-25 20:01:30.359375 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: Check graph connections for: Video Mixing Renderer 9 2012-07-25 20:01:30.359375 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: Check graph connections for: DirectSound: Intel(R) Display Audio Output 1 2012-07-25 20:01:30.359375 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: Check graph connections for: MPC - MPEG-2 Video Decoder (Gabest) 2012-07-25 20:01:30.359375 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: Check graph connections for: MPC - MPA Decoder Filter 2012-07-25 20:01:30.359375 [Debug][MPMain(1)]: Check graph connections for: TsReader[/collapse] Compare that to the extract <a href="https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/mp-1-2-3-wont-install-this-has-to-be-a-mistake-right.109445/#post-885611" target="_blank">that I posted earlier</a> and hopefully the differences are clear - no "failed" message for the audio codec (you can safely ignore the subtitle failed message - that is just saying there are no subtitles in the stream), and no "removing..." message. So based on that it seems like the problem might be related to codecs or TsReader. When I compare the TsReader logs I see... (working)[collapse]25-07-2012 20:01:30.328 [7e8]aud:CompleteConnect() 25-07-2012 20:01:30.328 [7e8]aud:CompleteConnect() done 25-07-2012 20:01:30.343 [7e8]vid:CompleteConnect() done 25-07-2012 20:01:30.375 [7e8]CTsReaderFilter:<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue    :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />ause() - IsTimeShifting = 0 - state = 0 25-07-2012 20:01:30.375 [e20]aud:OnThreadStartPlay(0.000000) 1.00 25-07-2012 20:01:30.375 [14c]vid:OnThreadStartPlay(0.000000) 1.00 0 25-07-2012 20:01:30.375 [7e8]CTsReaderFilter:<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue    :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />ause() - END - state = 1 25-07-2012 20:01:30.375 [148]CTsReaderFilter::ThreadProc start() 25-07-2012 20:01:30.375 [7e8]filt:IID_IMediaSeeking()[/collapse] (not working)[collapse]17-02-2012 12:19:13.484 [150]aud:CompleteConnect() 17-02-2012 12:19:13.484 [150]aud:CompleteConnect() done 17-02-2012 12:19:13.500 [150]vid:CompleteConnect() done 17-02-2012 12:19:13.515 [150]CTsReaderFilter:<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue    :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />ause() - IsTimeShifting = 0 - state = 0 17-02-2012 12:19:13.515 [e60]vid:OnThreadStartPlay(0.000000) 1.00 0 17-02-2012 12:19:13.515 [150]CTsReaderFilter:<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue    :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />ause() - END - state = 1 17-02-2012 12:19:13.515 [ee4]CTsReaderFilter::ThreadProc start() 17-02-2012 12:19:13.515 [150]filt:IID_IMediaSeeking()[/collapse] Note there is no "aud:OnThreadStartPlay...", meaning the audio is not starting... which could be due to the codec not being able to be connected. This seems to support my theory. When I say it could be a problem with codecs, I mean that the codec may not be able to handle the encoding format and options that your provider uses perfectly. That being the case, it might be expected that you would have more consistent problems with some recordings and even issues with live TV. Since you haven't reported those symptoms, I'm leaning more towards TsReader issues. Assuming that my theory is correct (and I would hope that is a reasonable assumption), lets step away from all the technical jargon and try to answer your original question: First, I want to be really clear: I can't guarantee anything, and probably nobody else can either. That really is like the impossible question from a developers perspective. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />That aside, my recommendation to you would be:1. Try the LAV codecs (and other codecs like FFDShow if you like).2. If the codecs don't solve the problem, update to MP 1.2.3. I'm not a codec expert but as I said previously those MPC codecs that came with MP 1.1.x are now quite outdated. The LAV codecs can decode additional formats and variations that the MPC codecs can't. My experience is similar to what many other people on this forum have reported - they seem generally more reliable. They're definitely worth a try. I'm also not the expert on TsReader but I do know that TsReader has received significant attention from Tony (Owlsroost) and others since MP 1.1.x. There is a reasonable chance that if the problem is in TsReader then it will have been fixed. Obviously upgrading risks breaking what is working, but there are also rewards - new features, bug fixes and significantly better support. I recommend the update not only because it is our standard practice for reporting issues but also because I genuinely believe that it would be better to upgrade and have the chance of getting a fix (that includes the chance that somebody will be willing to try and find and fix the problem if it still exists) than not upgrade and continue to put up with the problem. Of course the choice is yours. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Warm regards,mm</blockquote>

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