My Films 5 - AMC Updater (1 Viewer)

[Dadeo]

@halfblade - I just wanted to add to Guzzi's rather extensive answer that I also agree with your point(s). Guzzi and I have discussed it A LOT - particulary about improving the AMCUpdater interface. Remember AMCUpdater has been around for a while. Guzzi just integrated it in My Films 5 to make importing new films a lot easier. I never used it before because I found it too complex. BUT now, in My Films 5, I usually import new films via the GUI - Global Update DB (as Guzzi said), because it is so easy and so far all my new films have matched perfectly (I am sure some won't and I will probably add those via AMCU where you get total control over matching.)

However, before we change the interface for AMCU we really wanted to get more user feedback. So your post was really helpful. If you can provide more specific suggestions of how you think it could work better, or even mock up screens of your ideas, that would be great

 

[z3us]

Re: AW: Re: My Films 5 - AMC Updater

I used the option "import media label" in AMC, usefull to know in wich HDD the movie is stored (I use HDD with only movies labeled CINE I, CINE II, etc., and not ). ¿This option doesn't exist in AMCU?

There is an option to read media label infos from DVDs - but currently not for harddiscs. Should not bee too hard - you could create a feature request on google code, so other users can "star" it. If there is enough interest, we can add that.

I´m interested in this. I added it to the tracker

 

[z3us]

Two features I would like to have are:
- possibility of choosing which AMCu cfg to use when performing a global update from inside the GUI
- updating info from internet with batch mode

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[Guzzi]

AW: My Films 5 - AMC Updater

Two features I would like to have are:
- possibility of choosing which AMCu cfg to use when performing a global update from inside the GUI
- updating info from internet with batch mode

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Hi z3us,
we had some discussion about that before - and I would almost agree to you, that something like that is the next logical step to allow better user experience. It would allow you to once create the configs you need and after that use them from MyFilms GUI.
With that you'd have both - single movie updates and global updates - available from GUI.
We moved that to "post V5 final" - to not further delay the release and to get some more feedback from other users too.
So I would appreciate a discussion and more feedback about that - as we need to be clear about how we expect that to work etc.

I am also interested in user experiences about the update feature, that has undercome quite some changes in comparison to "original AMCupdater".

 

[z3us]

I would like it to work in a similar way than the single movie update: when you select global update, a window would pop up with all the available configs so u can select one to perform the global update. Also , like in single movie update, a option "dont use default script" could be available in MF config.
Is it possible?

 

[hafblade]

@halfblade - I just wanted to add to Guzzi's rather extensive answer that I also agree with your point(s). Guzzi and I have discussed it A LOT - particulary about improving the AMCUpdater interface. Remember AMCUpdater has been around for a while. Guzzi just integrated it in My Films 5 to make importing new films a lot easier. I never used it before because I found it too complex. BUT now, in My Films 5, I usually import new films via the GUI - Global Update DB (as Guzzi said), because it is so easy and so far all my new films have matched perfectly (I am sure some won't and I will probably add those via AMCU where you get total control over matching.)

However, before we change the interface for AMCU we really wanted to get more user feedback. So your post was really helpful. If you can provide more specific suggestions of how you think it could work better, or even mock up screens of your ideas, that would be great

Thanks for all your answers. I had only little time since my post but I'll look onto MyFilms again in depth this weekend. Than I'll try to become more exactly. I love MyFilms and I wish I would have more freetime to support you.
I have to look more exactly on AMCU and I'll report asap.

Two features I would like to have are:
- possibility of choosing which AMCu cfg to use when performing a global update from inside the GUI
- updating info from internet with batch mode

That would be great.

Here some more words on my process. Perhaps it helps to understand what I would love in my particular case. Even that I know that other people work in another way with it.

When I import a movie I normally try to get so many data as possible.

1) Import data with my main scraper (in my case cinefacts german)
2) Sometimes it happens that there is not enough data than I scrap data from other scrapers, too (for example ofdb/imdb ...)
3) When covers / fanarts haven't been found OR when covers / fanart are in poor quality (which happens more often than I want ) I scrap these from MovieGoods (for example)

It would be great something like this::
Download data from all selected scrapers and than automatically choose the "richest" data per field. For example let's say the first scraper has only 5 words in the description and the second one has 100. Than take the description of the 100 word scraper

Furthermore there should always be 3 scraper steps. One step for data, one for coverart and one for fanart.
So for example. Moviegoods has normally much better high quality fanart than cinefacts or imdb so it would be great to achieve this 3 step scraping.

 

[Alesfrancor]

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Can you retry the same, but NOT selecting URL in the database tab - I assume, that source field is properly populated, but then afterwards overwritten with URL info, as you requested to do so. If you can confirm that, I can add code, that import data will be prevented, if a field is selected as source field, making that more robust for users.

Sorry, I was very busy. I found some time for test right now. I can confirm that it works not selecting URL.

There is an option to read media label infos from DVDs - but currently not for harddiscs. Should not bee too hard - you could create a feature request on google code, so other users can "star" it. If there is enough interest, we can add that.

Z3us did it. Where can I "star" it? I was looking for in "issues" in google code, is not the right place?

I just had a look, there is currently no wa doing that with AMCU (copying all values from URL to SOURCE). Afaik, there is scripts for AMC available, that might be able to do that.
If you don't have used the source field yet, you could also just do a search and replace on the XML catalog file (replace 'URL="' with 'Source="'). Don't forget to make a backup, in case something goes wrong.

I don't know how to do that . I found a tools script, selecting "Append field 1 to end of field 2" I can copy the storage file info from URL to source. But after I use the script "delete field" for URL but it doesn't work.

The default config in myfilms for "item for storage file info" is "source". But in AMC options-media file importation I only find "import file name as title" and "import full path in URL field". So may be AMC users don't use source as storage file info. What do you think about?

 

[z3us]

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Z3us did it. Where can I "star" it? I was looking for in "issues" in google code, is not the right place?

I think that Guzzi has implemented it yesterday. Wait for next realease!
Issue 17 - my-films - media label of HDs - MyFilms is a plugin for mediaportal to use your AMC or other external movie catalogs - Google Project Hosting

I don't know how to do that . I found a tools script, selecting "Append field 1 to end of field 2" I can copy the storage file info from URL to source. But after I use the script "delete field" for URL but it doesn't work.

The default config in myfilms for "item for storage file info" is "source". But in AMC options-media file importation I only find "import file name as title" and "import full path in URL field". So may be AMC users don't use source as storage file info. What do you think about?

First of all, ensure you have a backup copy of your films catalog file
Open your xml films database with notepad. Then go to "edición - reemplazar". In the buscar field, put

URL=

in the other field, write this:

Source=

Finally, press the "reemplazar todo" button and save the file (ctrl + g)

Now you have ur path info of all your movies in tha source field. But this is only a temporal patch.
I think you are adding new films to the catalog by dragging them to the AMC window. I advise you to always do it using AMCu, with the "item for storage fike info" set to Source.

GL. I know that my english is horrible, if u want I can translate it to spanish

 

[Guzzi]

AW: My Films 5 - AMC Updater

Yes, issue #17 is already done. You can see all issues, including the closed/fixed ones by changing the filter - by default, only open issues are displayed.

Re Changing mediapath field from "URL" to "Source":
Doing that as suggested in an editor should work fine.

It should also be possible, to do that in AMCupdater with latest additions - but unfortunately it doesn't due to a bug that was not yet reported. I already fixed that bug for next version - but the "Copy Value" option will not yet work in current version.
However, I have added some info and this example to wiki to make it clear how it works.
You might want to have a look at it, as the update tab imho is very powerful now - especially the options to "only add missing data" and "only update with non-empty data" allows comfortably adding missing data to your existing catalog, e.g. by using another scraper or moving data in your catalog.
If anybody needs fixed version immediately, please PM me - otherwise it will be part of next version V5.1.1 anyway.

 

[Guzzi]

AW: Re: My Films 5 - AMC Updater

I would like it to work in a similar way than the single movie update: when you select global update, a window would pop up with all the available configs so u can select one to perform the global update. Also , like in single movie update, a option "dont use default script" could be available in MF config.
Is it possible?

I think this is something we can take into consideration for next feature release.
But we will have to make a difference bewteen global update and import movies.
So far, the current naming in MF GUI is not very good - as it is called "global update", but it actually is "import movies".
So we would end up having two options:
1.) import new movies (existing today already)
2.) update movie data (new feature)

To avoid too much options in GUI, using it with "preconfigured profiles" (= AMCupdater configs) would be a good way to do - we still can think about adding an options dialog in the future to also allow changing those settings from GUI, if there is a need for it - not sure, as usually you will set it up once and are done for normal usage - and setup is easier in setup than with a remote.

Some more things to think about:
- especially changing the scraper is an option, that should in some way be accessible from GUI - but I do not want to make GUI too complicate. So either user has to always choose it - or we put it somewhere in an options setting.
- Currently, the Database Fields selection Tab shares its settings for both import and updates - to my experience, users might want to only update "some" fields - but usually want to import all fields. THis is already possible for the above scenario by using two different configs - but it might be worth to separate those settings for import and update - so standard setups can just use ONE config for all standard needs.