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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 1102325" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>Apologies in advance for this long post. There is no short answer to your questions/comments. Please read carefully.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No problem. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>In short: no you shouldn't increase it more. I think you've got all the names you're going to get. No more scanning is necessary.</p><p></p><p>The long answer is more complex...</p><p>Unfortunately Charter isn't broadcasting revision detection descriptors so TV Server can't ever be 100% confident that it has received all available lineup information. However, considering that cable providers are meant to cycle the lineup information every 60 to 120 seconds, 1200s is <em>way</em> longer than you should have to wait to receive all lineup info. On that basis I'm assuming that TV Server has acquired all the lineup info and that Charter isn't providing names for some channels.</p><p></p><p>The question then becomes: how many of these "Unknown..." channels are there, and why would Charter not give them names?</p><p></p><p>To answer those questions I had to do some "exhaustive" (it took several hours) analysis of the last scan in your log files. That analysis revealed the following channel statistics:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">673 total definitions<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">175 total hidden<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">102 MPEG 2 [digital] hidden<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">73 non-MPEG 2 [analog???], all hidden</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">43 duplicates</li> </ul><p>You end up with 557 channels in the TV Channels section:</p><p>557 = 673 total - 73 non-MPEG 2 [can't be tuned by current CableCARD tuners] - 43 duplicates</p><p></p><p>The duplicates are worth a mention as I've never noticed them in anybody else's logs, and I'm hoping you can help me understand them.</p><p>From a technical perspective they appear to be channels with the same source ID (ie. same name and guide data) but different channel numbers:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">MTV3S [145/223]<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">ESPN [35/119]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">ESPN2 [36/171]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">VH-1 [60/231]<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">FSWST [37/111]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">FSNPT [38/118]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">NBCSP [67/128]<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">GOLF [74/131]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">CITY [20/138]<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">TOON [49/413]<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">CMT [84/423]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">BOOM [102/257]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">MVPLX [79/893]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">DYSTR [98/127]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">LMNET [90/797]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">GOLTV [274/182]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">STYLE [52/185]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">FLIXW [76/296]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">NFLNE [14/297]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">INDPX [77/184]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">RTPLX [78/240]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">CNHD [779/661]<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">NGWHD [346/662]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">PUBLI [2/892]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">EDU [19/154]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">KPMR [16/254]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">KTAS [17/663]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">PEG [21/169]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">KSBO [22/123]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">VME [195/414]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">JWLRY [86/141]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">INSP [99/602]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">DISXD [82/429]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">DISJR [23/418]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">OWN [53/419]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">BLOOM [95/155]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">TVLND [73/420]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">INDIS [65/421]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">MLB [75/411]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">TWCS [24/412]<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">TWCD [25/183]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">DISXH [695/232]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">FBN [94/272]</li> </ul><p>Are they different packages or something???</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, that's what TV Server finds. For the record, the Ceton tuner thinks you have 498 channels. I suspect that is:</p><p>498 = 673 total - 175 total hidden</p><p></p><p>Of the 557 channels in TV Server's channel list, there are 90 that don't have names.</p><p>All of those are hidden MPEG 2 channels.</p><p>That leaves 12 hidden MPEG 2 channels which do have names, and they are:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">DISXD</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">DISXD</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">TVG</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">DF&H</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">RTPI</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">MMXHD</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">ACTMH</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">MTVTR</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">BBCAM</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">DXDHD</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">HLMKH</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">HRTV</li> </ul><p>Maybe they are test or obsolete channels. I don't know.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, the end result is that those 90 channels that are named "Unknown..." are channels that (a) Charter has hidden for some reason and (b) Charter has not assigned names.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As I said in my last post:</p><p></p><p></p><p>This time please take note of the section:</p><p></p><p></p><p>In other words: avoid using preview for testing please.</p><p></p><p>Putting that aside...</p><p>Channel 11 (KKFX) tuned successfully:</p><p>[collapse][2014-09-30 10:02:12,244] [Log ] [5 ] [INFO ] - atsc:Tune:ATSC:tv:Cable KKFX Freq:169250 ONID:40007 TSID:0 SID:4 PMT:0x0 FTA:False LCN:22 phys:22 maj:11 min:0 mod:Mod256Qam </p><p>...</p><p>[2014-09-30 10:02:13,765] [Log ] [5 ] [INFO ] - subch:0-0 tswriter StartTimeshifting...</p><p>[2014-09-30 10:02:13,769] [Log ] [5 ] [INFO ] - card: WaitForFile - waiting _eventAudio & _eventVideo[/collapse]</p><p></p><p>...but would have appeared to fail. It appeared to fail because the TV service crashed. The underlying reason for the crash is unknown, but for the record here are the Windows event logs:</p><p>[collapse]</p><p>"9/30/2014 10:02:19 AM";"Windows Error Reporting";"(0)";"Information";"Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: BEX Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: TVService.exe P2: 1.8.0.0 P3: 53a6f5b9 P4: StackHash_5861 P5: 0.0.0.0 P6: 00000000 P7: PCH_D2_FROM_ntdll+0x0003D2EC P8: c0000005 P9: 00000008 P10: Attached files: C:\Windows\Temp\WER79AA.tmp.appcompat.txt C:\Windows\Temp\WER8013.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_TVService.exe_49a4567f29a26bad5258bc845da5d9c247a5340_6df910a4_cab_0e488011\memory.hdmp C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_TVService.exe_49a4567f29a26bad5258bc845da5d9c247a5340_6df910a4_cab_0e488011\triagedump.dmp These files may be available here: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_TVService.exe_49a4567f29a26bad5258bc845da5d9c247a5340_6df910a4_cab_0e488011 Analysis symbol: Rechecking for solution: 0 Report Id: 7d2980b4-48c3-11e4-bed7-ac7ba14e3c4c Report Status: 4 Hashed bucket: ";"1001"</p><p>"9/30/2014 10:02:24 AM";"Windows Error Reporting";"(0)";"Information";"Fault bucket 50, type 5 Event Name: BEX Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: TVService.exe P2: 1.8.0.0 P3: 53a6f5b9 P4: StackHash_5861 P5: 0.0.0.0 P6: 00000000 P7: PCH_D2_FROM_ntdll+0x0003D2EC P8: c0000005 P9: 00000008 P10: Attached files: C:\Windows\Temp\WER79AA.tmp.appcompat.txt C:\Windows\Temp\WER8013.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_TVService.exe_49a4567f29a26bad5258bc845da5d9c247a5340_6df910a4_cab_0e488011\memory.hdmp C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_TVService.exe_49a4567f29a26bad5258bc845da5d9c247a5340_6df910a4_cab_0e488011\triagedump.dmp These files may be available here: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_TVService.exe_49a4567f29a26bad5258bc845da5d9c247a5340_6df910a4_0570d90f Analysis symbol: Rechecking for solution: 0 Report Id: 7d2980b4-48c3-11e4-bed7-ac7ba14e3c4c Report Status: 0 Hashed bucket: 477c54dfd2583ca03e418ce707892c18";"1001"</p><p>[/collapse]</p><p></p><p></p><p>I see that you tried to preview channel 781 (KKFXD) prior to the latest scan. The TV service log doesn't go back far enough for me to get a complete picture of what happened but the TsWriter log seems to show the channel timeshifting successfully several times.</p><p>[collapse]</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - debug: AddChannel()</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: reset</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - PatParser::Reset</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - NIT:Reset</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - PatParser::Reset done</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - cagrabber: reset</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - debug: done AddChannel()</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,422] [679c0f0] [858] - epg: reset</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,422] [679c0f0] [858] - epg:ResetEPG()</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,422] [679c0f0] [858] - mhw reset</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,977] [679c0f0] [858] - CMpTsFilter:<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />ause()</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,977] [679c0f0] [858] - Pause filter...</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,977] [679c0f0] [858] - HRESULT = 0x0</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,978] [679c0f0] [858] - CMpTsFilter::Run()</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,978] [679c0f0] [858] - Run filter...</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:31,978] [679c0f0] [858] - HRESULT = 0x0</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,192] [679c0f0] [858] - pmtgrabber: set callback:5d4fed8</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,192] [679c0f0] [858] - pmtgrabber: grab pmt:f40 sid:1</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmtgrabber: got pmt f40 sid:1</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmtgrabber: PMT pids changed from:</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pcr pid: 0</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmt pid: 0</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmtgrabber: PMT pids changed to:</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pcr pid: f41</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmt pid: f40</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - video pid: f41 type: MPEG2</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - audio pid: f42 language: eng type: AC3</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - audio pid: f43 language: spa type: AC3</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmtgrabber: got new pmt version:1 ffffffff, service_id:1</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmtgrabber: do callback pid f40</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,520] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: set video pid:f41</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,520] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: reset</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,525] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: set audio pid:f42</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,525] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: reset</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,530] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: set audio pid:f43</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,530] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: reset</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,747] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT SetVideoAudioObserver observer ok</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,747] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT set filename<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />:\Mediaportal\timeshiftbuffer\live8-0.ts.tsbuffer</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,747] [679c0f0] [858] - CDiskRecorder:<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite5" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused:" />etChannelType() - Channel type is 0</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,747] [679c0f0] [858] - CDiskRecorder:<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite5" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused:" />etChannelType() - Channel type is 0</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT paused=yes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT Received from TvService: pmt pid:0xf40 serviceId: 0x1 pmtlength:97</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT Old pids cleared</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT got pmt - tableid: 0x2 section_length: 94 sid: 0x1</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT PMT parsed - Pid 0xf40 ServiceId 0x1 stream count: 3</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT pcr pid:0xf41</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT SetPcrPid clear old PIDs</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT add video stream pid: 0xf41 fake pid: 0x30 stream type: 0x2 logical type: 0x2 descriptor length: 14</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT add audio stream pid: 0xf42 fake pid: 0x40 stream type: 0x81 logical type: 0x81 descriptor length: 26</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT add audio stream pid: 0xf43 fake pid: 0x41 stream type: 0x81 logical type: 0x81 descriptor length: 26</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT paused=no</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,754] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT Start 'D:\Mediaportal\timeshiftbuffer\live8-0.ts.tsbuffer'</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,766] [679c0f0] [1110] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT start of video detected</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,787] [679c0f0] [1110] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT clear TS packet queue</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,787] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::WriteToTimeshiftFile() - Reset write buffer throttle</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,787] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 376 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,787] [679c0f0] [1110] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT Info : Next broadcaster program clock reference rollover : 0 days 20:58:08 0</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,787] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 564 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,787] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 940 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 940 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 940 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 940 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 940 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 1880 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 1880 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 1880 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 1880 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 1880 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,809] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 3760 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,809] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 3760 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,821] [679c0f0] [1110] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT start of audio detected</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,827] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 3760 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,827] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 6016 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,827] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 7520 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,829] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 9400 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,837] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 15416 bytes</p><p>[2014-09-29 15:18:32,851] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 32336 bytes (max)</p><p>[/collapse]</p><p></p><p>Having said that, looking at the TV Server configuration logs I can see that preview was <strong>very</strong> slow:</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's probably due to codec issues, and precisely why I recommend <strong>not</strong> to use preview. If you want to check the video/audio use MediaPortal because you can control which codecs are used; if you want to just check timeshifting/recording success/fail and stability use TV Server configuration manual control.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't see any reason for a freeze. Again, please don't use preview for testing. It is not a good indicator of behaviour in MediaPortal.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't see any attempts to preview this channel. Nevertheless, my suggestion would be: don't assume that you'll get the same behaviour as a set top box. I think it is unlikely that TV Server would show you the same screen as your set top box.</p><p></p><p></p><p>What do you mean "match"?</p><p>Can you please walk me through an example?</p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p>mm</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 1102325, member: 82144"] Apologies in advance for this long post. There is no short answer to your questions/comments. Please read carefully. No problem. :) In short: no you shouldn't increase it more. I think you've got all the names you're going to get. No more scanning is necessary. The long answer is more complex... Unfortunately Charter isn't broadcasting revision detection descriptors so TV Server can't ever be 100% confident that it has received all available lineup information. However, considering that cable providers are meant to cycle the lineup information every 60 to 120 seconds, 1200s is [I]way[/I] longer than you should have to wait to receive all lineup info. On that basis I'm assuming that TV Server has acquired all the lineup info and that Charter isn't providing names for some channels. The question then becomes: how many of these "Unknown..." channels are there, and why would Charter not give them names? To answer those questions I had to do some "exhaustive" (it took several hours) analysis of the last scan in your log files. That analysis revealed the following channel statistics: [LIST] [*]673 total definitions [*]175 total hidden [*]102 MPEG 2 [digital] hidden [*]73 non-MPEG 2 [analog???], all hidden [*]43 duplicates [/LIST] You end up with 557 channels in the TV Channels section: 557 = 673 total - 73 non-MPEG 2 [can't be tuned by current CableCARD tuners] - 43 duplicates The duplicates are worth a mention as I've never noticed them in anybody else's logs, and I'm hoping you can help me understand them. From a technical perspective they appear to be channels with the same source ID (ie. same name and guide data) but different channel numbers: [LIST] [*]MTV3S [145/223] [*]ESPN [35/119] [*]ESPN2 [36/171] [*]VH-1 [60/231] [*]FSWST [37/111] [*]FSNPT [38/118] [*]NBCSP [67/128] [*]GOLF [74/131] [*]CITY [20/138] [*]TOON [49/413] [*]CMT [84/423] [*]BOOM [102/257] [*]MVPLX [79/893] [*]DYSTR [98/127] [*]LMNET [90/797] [*]GOLTV [274/182] [*]STYLE [52/185] [*]FLIXW [76/296] [*]NFLNE [14/297] [*]INDPX [77/184] [*]RTPLX [78/240] [*]CNHD [779/661] [*]NGWHD [346/662] [*]PUBLI [2/892] [*]EDU [19/154] [*]KPMR [16/254] [*]KTAS [17/663] [*]PEG [21/169] [*]KSBO [22/123] [*]VME [195/414] [*]JWLRY [86/141] [*]INSP [99/602] [*]DISXD [82/429] [*]DISJR [23/418] [*]OWN [53/419] [*]BLOOM [95/155] [*]TVLND [73/420] [*]INDIS [65/421] [*]MLB [75/411] [*]TWCS [24/412] [*]TWCD [25/183] [*]DISXH [695/232] [*]FBN [94/272] [/LIST] Are they different packages or something??? Anyhow, that's what TV Server finds. For the record, the Ceton tuner thinks you have 498 channels. I suspect that is: 498 = 673 total - 175 total hidden Of the 557 channels in TV Server's channel list, there are 90 that don't have names. All of those are hidden MPEG 2 channels. That leaves 12 hidden MPEG 2 channels which do have names, and they are: [LIST] [*]DISXD [*]DISXD [*]TVG [*]DF&H [*]RTPI [*]MMXHD [*]ACTMH [*]MTVTR [*]BBCAM [*]DXDHD [*]HLMKH [*]HRTV [/LIST] Maybe they are test or obsolete channels. I don't know. Anyhow, the end result is that those 90 channels that are named "Unknown..." are channels that (a) Charter has hidden for some reason and (b) Charter has not assigned names. As I said in my last post: This time please take note of the section: In other words: avoid using preview for testing please. Putting that aside... Channel 11 (KKFX) tuned successfully: [collapse][2014-09-30 10:02:12,244] [Log ] [5 ] [INFO ] - atsc:Tune:ATSC:tv:Cable KKFX Freq:169250 ONID:40007 TSID:0 SID:4 PMT:0x0 FTA:False LCN:22 phys:22 maj:11 min:0 mod:Mod256Qam ... [2014-09-30 10:02:13,765] [Log ] [5 ] [INFO ] - subch:0-0 tswriter StartTimeshifting... [2014-09-30 10:02:13,769] [Log ] [5 ] [INFO ] - card: WaitForFile - waiting _eventAudio & _eventVideo[/collapse] ...but would have appeared to fail. It appeared to fail because the TV service crashed. The underlying reason for the crash is unknown, but for the record here are the Windows event logs: [collapse] "9/30/2014 10:02:19 AM";"Windows Error Reporting";"(0)";"Information";"Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: BEX Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: TVService.exe P2: 1.8.0.0 P3: 53a6f5b9 P4: StackHash_5861 P5: 0.0.0.0 P6: 00000000 P7: PCH_D2_FROM_ntdll+0x0003D2EC P8: c0000005 P9: 00000008 P10: Attached files: C:\Windows\Temp\WER79AA.tmp.appcompat.txt C:\Windows\Temp\WER8013.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_TVService.exe_49a4567f29a26bad5258bc845da5d9c247a5340_6df910a4_cab_0e488011\memory.hdmp C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_TVService.exe_49a4567f29a26bad5258bc845da5d9c247a5340_6df910a4_cab_0e488011\triagedump.dmp These files may be available here: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_TVService.exe_49a4567f29a26bad5258bc845da5d9c247a5340_6df910a4_cab_0e488011 Analysis symbol: Rechecking for solution: 0 Report Id: 7d2980b4-48c3-11e4-bed7-ac7ba14e3c4c Report Status: 4 Hashed bucket: ";"1001" "9/30/2014 10:02:24 AM";"Windows Error Reporting";"(0)";"Information";"Fault bucket 50, type 5 Event Name: BEX Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: TVService.exe P2: 1.8.0.0 P3: 53a6f5b9 P4: StackHash_5861 P5: 0.0.0.0 P6: 00000000 P7: PCH_D2_FROM_ntdll+0x0003D2EC P8: c0000005 P9: 00000008 P10: Attached files: C:\Windows\Temp\WER79AA.tmp.appcompat.txt C:\Windows\Temp\WER8013.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_TVService.exe_49a4567f29a26bad5258bc845da5d9c247a5340_6df910a4_cab_0e488011\memory.hdmp C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_TVService.exe_49a4567f29a26bad5258bc845da5d9c247a5340_6df910a4_cab_0e488011\triagedump.dmp These files may be available here: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_TVService.exe_49a4567f29a26bad5258bc845da5d9c247a5340_6df910a4_0570d90f Analysis symbol: Rechecking for solution: 0 Report Id: 7d2980b4-48c3-11e4-bed7-ac7ba14e3c4c Report Status: 0 Hashed bucket: 477c54dfd2583ca03e418ce707892c18";"1001" [/collapse] I see that you tried to preview channel 781 (KKFXD) prior to the latest scan. The TV service log doesn't go back far enough for me to get a complete picture of what happened but the TsWriter log seems to show the channel timeshifting successfully several times. [collapse] [2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - debug: AddChannel() [2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: reset [2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - PatParser::Reset [2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - NIT:Reset [2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - PatParser::Reset done [2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - cagrabber: reset [2014-09-29 15:18:31,414] [679c0f0] [858] - debug: done AddChannel() [2014-09-29 15:18:31,422] [679c0f0] [858] - epg: reset [2014-09-29 15:18:31,422] [679c0f0] [858] - epg:ResetEPG() [2014-09-29 15:18:31,422] [679c0f0] [858] - mhw reset [2014-09-29 15:18:31,977] [679c0f0] [858] - CMpTsFilter::Pause() [2014-09-29 15:18:31,977] [679c0f0] [858] - Pause filter... [2014-09-29 15:18:31,977] [679c0f0] [858] - HRESULT = 0x0 [2014-09-29 15:18:31,978] [679c0f0] [858] - CMpTsFilter::Run() [2014-09-29 15:18:31,978] [679c0f0] [858] - Run filter... [2014-09-29 15:18:31,978] [679c0f0] [858] - HRESULT = 0x0 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,192] [679c0f0] [858] - pmtgrabber: set callback:5d4fed8 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,192] [679c0f0] [858] - pmtgrabber: grab pmt:f40 sid:1 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmtgrabber: got pmt f40 sid:1 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmtgrabber: PMT pids changed from: [2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pcr pid: 0 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmt pid: 0 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmtgrabber: PMT pids changed to: [2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pcr pid: f41 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmt pid: f40 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - video pid: f41 type: MPEG2 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - audio pid: f42 language: eng type: AC3 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - audio pid: f43 language: spa type: AC3 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmtgrabber: got new pmt version:1 ffffffff, service_id:1 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,441] [679c0f0] [1110] - pmtgrabber: do callback pid f40 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,520] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: set video pid:f41 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,520] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: reset [2014-09-29 15:18:32,525] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: set audio pid:f42 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,525] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: reset [2014-09-29 15:18:32,530] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: set audio pid:f43 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,530] [679c0f0] [858] - analyzer: reset [2014-09-29 15:18:32,747] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT SetVideoAudioObserver observer ok [2014-09-29 15:18:32,747] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT set filename:D:\Mediaportal\timeshiftbuffer\live8-0.ts.tsbuffer [2014-09-29 15:18:32,747] [679c0f0] [858] - CDiskRecorder::SetChannelType() - Channel type is 0 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,747] [679c0f0] [858] - CDiskRecorder::SetChannelType() - Channel type is 0 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT paused=yes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT Received from TvService: pmt pid:0xf40 serviceId: 0x1 pmtlength:97 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT Old pids cleared [2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT got pmt - tableid: 0x2 section_length: 94 sid: 0x1 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT PMT parsed - Pid 0xf40 ServiceId 0x1 stream count: 3 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT pcr pid:0xf41 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT SetPcrPid clear old PIDs [2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT add video stream pid: 0xf41 fake pid: 0x30 stream type: 0x2 logical type: 0x2 descriptor length: 14 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT add audio stream pid: 0xf42 fake pid: 0x40 stream type: 0x81 logical type: 0x81 descriptor length: 26 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT add audio stream pid: 0xf43 fake pid: 0x41 stream type: 0x81 logical type: 0x81 descriptor length: 26 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,750] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT paused=no [2014-09-29 15:18:32,754] [679c0f0] [858] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT Start 'D:\Mediaportal\timeshiftbuffer\live8-0.ts.tsbuffer' [2014-09-29 15:18:32,766] [679c0f0] [1110] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT start of video detected [2014-09-29 15:18:32,787] [679c0f0] [1110] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT clear TS packet queue [2014-09-29 15:18:32,787] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::WriteToTimeshiftFile() - Reset write buffer throttle [2014-09-29 15:18:32,787] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 376 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,787] [679c0f0] [1110] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT Info : Next broadcaster program clock reference rollover : 0 days 20:58:08 0 [2014-09-29 15:18:32,787] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 564 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,787] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 940 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 940 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 940 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 940 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 940 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 1880 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 1880 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 1880 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 1880 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,805] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 1880 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,809] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 3760 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,809] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 3760 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,821] [679c0f0] [1110] - Recorder: TIMESHIFT start of audio detected [2014-09-29 15:18:32,827] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 3760 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,827] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 6016 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,827] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 7520 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,829] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 9400 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,837] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 15416 bytes [2014-09-29 15:18:32,851] [679c0f0] [1110] - CDiskRecorder::Flush() - Throttle to 32336 bytes (max) [/collapse] Having said that, looking at the TV Server configuration logs I can see that preview was [B]very[/B] slow: That's probably due to codec issues, and precisely why I recommend [B]not[/B] to use preview. If you want to check the video/audio use MediaPortal because you can control which codecs are used; if you want to just check timeshifting/recording success/fail and stability use TV Server configuration manual control. I don't see any reason for a freeze. Again, please don't use preview for testing. It is not a good indicator of behaviour in MediaPortal. I don't see any attempts to preview this channel. Nevertheless, my suggestion would be: don't assume that you'll get the same behaviour as a set top box. I think it is unlikely that TV Server would show you the same screen as your set top box. What do you mean "match"? Can you please walk me through an example? Regards, mm [/QUOTE]
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