No Subtitles for live tv and recorded tv playback from MP 1.8.0 (1 Viewer)

[aaegroupguy]

Hello,

1st I love this tool. I've been working at getting it configured and like the potential.

My current challange is to have subtitles (english) from my HDHomeRun Plus tuners passed through for both Live TV and Recorded TV.

I have tried everything I could find in the way of solutions posted in the various forum articles.

I can see subtitles when I use the HDHomeRun preview with VLC, works every time.

I can see subtitles when I play a recorded tv show from MediaPortal using VLC and select the 1. subtitle stream. works every time.

Now, If just can get the MediaPortal player to be able to show subtitles, I will be a happy camper...

Thank you in advance for your help.

I have attached a log file.

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Hardware:
Lenovo k330 i5 with Windows 8.1 with all the patches installed and Windows Media Center (subtitles work A.O.K.)
HDHomeRun Plus Tuners
Trying to watch NBC news with subtitles (recorded) and Law and Order (live)

-- HDHomeRun set as follows:
zip = 95677
Main Application: MediaPortal
Preview Application:
I've tried all three
Video Lan VLC
HDHomeRun Quick TV
Windows Media Player

I tried disabling WMC and that didn't help.

I did get the episode guide for my local stations with ATSC working just fine. Thanks for the help!

 

[mm1352000]

Hello again

I guess you mean closed captions, right?
It doesn't look like you've seen this:
http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_...calization/How_to_get_CC_in_ATSC//QAM_streams

Could you please try those instructions.

If they don't work please post fresh log files with the CoreCC parser (described in the link above) enabled.
Any additional information you could supply about what type of closed captions we're dealing with (eg. EIA 608, EIA 708) would also be helpful.

mm

 

[aaegroupguy]

Well, it works! Kinda...

I get (with some manual intervention) captions. But I have to click the FFDShow / Cyberlink Audio Renderer (pdvd10) in the taskbar to get them tttto start with some stuttering.



I have a persistent problem with the MP Preview (either in full screen or partial) hanging on exit. kinda had that all along. SO I must have a conflict going on somewhere. The main body of the Preview windows freeezes but the menu bar at the top is active (exit doesn't work) but I can configure (F2) and the configure will close the window. Go figure....

Thanks again.

(new log file attached)

 

[mm1352000]

Well, it works! Kinda...

At least we're getting somewhere...

Some recommendations that might help...

1. Disable DVB subtitles here:
http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_...nfiguration/22_TV/TV_Client#Subtitle_Settings

DVB is the TV standard used in other parts of the world; it is not used in the USA. So, enabling that option won't help you get subtitles/CCs, and at worst it might be causing issues.

2. Use the EVR renderer instead of VMR 9, here:
http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_...ration/9_Codecs_and_Renderer/3_Video_Renderer

VMR 9 is for XP only where EVR is not available. You'll almost certainly get much better results with EVR, and that might solve both your "click to start with some stuttering" thing and the MP preview issues.

3. Use the "default DirectSound" audio renderer" for TV:
http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_...nfiguration/9_Codecs_and_Renderer/1_TV_Codecs

If you're familiar with the Cyberlink audio renderer and have some reason for using it that's fine. However I suspect it could be contributing to the stuttering thing. I'd highly recommend to stick with the default DirectSound audio renderer for TV unless you've got very good reason to do otherwise.

For videos, BluRay and DVD you could also use the default DirectSound option or try the MediaPortal Audio Renderer. Again, I'd recommend avoiding the Cyberlink audio renderer unless you're using it for specific reasons.

4. Don't enable anything other than CoreCC parser for post processing:
http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_...ortal_Configuration/22_TV/3_TV_Postprocessing

The closed captions guide that I previously linked only requires you to configure the CoreCC parser for post processing. At present it looks like you've got CoreCC (which is good)... plus CyberLink Audio Decoder (PDVD10) and ffdshow subtitles filter (which from my perspective is quite unexpected/unusual). Unless you've configured those additional post processing filters intentionally I would really recommend to remove them and keep configuration as simple as possible. CoreCC should be enough.


Regards,
mm

 

[aaegroupguy]

Ok, making more progress.

Stuttering gone. I used "default DirectSound"

It seems that the only LAV Video decoder for tv causes artifacts (pixelation) on live tv and playing recorded.

If I use Cyberling Video Decoder (PDVD10) the artifacts go away.

Can I change the font size of the closed captions? Changing settings in Subtitles doesn't see to have any effect.

How can I sync the live video to the closed captions. Is there a setting for advance / delay?

I'm still having problems with closing MediaPortal.exe after watching tv. Doesn't seem to matter if I stop the playback or not. It will respond to ALT-Enter and then I can do F2 to get out without having to kill it in the task manager. Could this be a result of logging options?

Thanks again.

 

[mm1352000]

It seems that the only LAV Video decoder for tv causes artifacts (pixelation) on live tv and playing recorded.

Possibly because you haven't enabled hardware accelerated video decoding (DXVA)?
I'd suggest having a look here if you're interested in the best possible quality playback:
https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/threads/guide-perfect-playback-display-calibration.119610/

Can I change the font size of the closed captions?

No it doesn't look like it is possible at the moment, sorry.

@Sebastiii
Am I right to think that you added (or helped to add) support for this feature?
Seems like the font size could be set by calling IAMLine21Decoder.SetOutputFormat() (maybe BitmapInfoHeader.Width and BitmapInfoHeader.Height or BitmapInfoHeader.XPelsPerMeter and BitmapInfoHeader.YPelsPerMeter???).
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd319635(v=vs.85).aspx

Interested?

Changing settings in Subtitles doesn't see to have any effect.

No that won't have any effect.

How can I sync the live video to the closed captions. I see a slider which I imagine is used to do that, but its disabled.

The slider won't work for CCs. I can't see or think of any way to do it in code or with configuration except by inserting another post-processing filter to delay the video. There simply doesn't appear to be any delay settings available on either the Core CC parser or line 21 decoders.

mm

 

[Sebastiii]

Hi,

I have try to help to fix subtitle teletext but not sure if i can't more lol

 

[aaegroupguy]

My experience is rooted in watching downloaded tv shows using VLC and .srt subtitles. I can configure the position / font / color / transparency etc. ALSO, when there is a mismatch in the video timing with the subtitles I can adjust.

Now that I have HDHomeRun tuners, I can open the upnp device and play live TV in VLC. So, many (but not all) of the above functionality is available for closed captions.

SO, I just projected that MediaPortal surely would have the same features (since it has options for EVERYTHING) !

I'm not sure how I could help (except to test).

Thanks again for all your efforts.