overrunning programs - EPG recording adjustment? (1 Viewer)

[iancalderban]

the other day I had a recording (amazon with bruce parry) trashed by an overrunning sports event (Masters Golf). MP recorded at the right times according to the EPG published schedules - but the schedule changed at the last minute due to the golf overruning, so I got 30 mins of golf and 30 mins of bruce parry... Its part of a series recording, so I didn't even notice that this week it had a sports event preceding it - if I'd set the recording manually, I might have. I do know that sometimes, the UK broadcasters update the now-next EPG if such an overrnun is happening, certainly on Freeview (DVB-T), not sure about DVB-S. I don't know if it happened on this particular occasion though.

Is there any way for TV server to check the OTA EPG for last minute information and adjust a recording time if such information is available?

Ian

 

[Paranoid Delusion]

Is there any way for TV server to check the OTA EPG for last minute information and adjust a recording time if such information is available?

If you checked the epg at that time its wrong, they never alter times on the fly, this is one of the problems when sporting events over run, only thing you can do, is think of the possibility of it finishing late, like Man U and Everton week before last week going to penalties

 

[Eabin]

are you sure? i always thought that there are two kinds of epg data. short term and long term. the short term epg only contains the currently running program, and the upcoming one. some (or all?) stations send the correct short term epg as long as the event is running. some channels even send the good old VPS signal over DVB.

 

[iancalderban]

are you sure? i always thought that there are two kinds of epg data. short term and long term. the short term epg only contains the currently running program, and the upcoming one. some (or all?) stations send the correct short term epg as long as the event is running. some channels even send the good old VPS signal over DVB.

I have definately seen corrected EPG data in the short term. Watching the wimbledon final last year (dvb-t, BBC1/2) on my old PACE freeview box, I distinctly remember seeing the freeview EPG being continuosly corrected as the match carried on and on.

Don't know about last week and the golf - I was asleep at the time of the recording

yes you can always manually set if there is a sport event preceding and you notice that there is! problem if its from an auto-generated series record though, you don't even notice. Maybe MP needs a "oh no there's a sport event preceding set a 4hr tail pad on the recording" featurette
ta
Ian

 

[Paranoid Delusion]

are you sure? i always thought that there are two kinds of epg data. short term and long term. the short term epg only contains the currently running program, and the upcoming one. some (or all?) stations send the correct short term epg as long as the event is running. some channels even send the good old VPS signal over DVB.

Hmm, the only ones I have seen using MP, have always shown the incorrect one, but then I do not use the "grab epg whilst timeshifting" option, so I assume no update is done whilst TV is playing, wondering if this was enabled, changes would show up, but remember, this can break things for some people.

 

[Eabin]

i think the epg should not be updated, but it would be useful for recordings. also some other dvb apps (e.g. dvbviewer iirc) always show you the short-term epg. i will try to verify this with dvbviewer next time i watch a possibly overrunning sports event.

 

[Mr Hipp]

Have you checked the 'always update EPG' checkbox in server set-up?

 

[iancalderban]

Have you checked the 'always update EPG' checkbox in server set-up?

I have "always try to fill holes" and "always try to update existing entries" checked.

I do not have "Grab EPG while timeshifting/recording" checked, as this caused something to be unstable, I can't remember exactly what.

timeshifting isn't so relevant - a human is watching. Just having MP able to check the short-term EPG before deciding to end a recording, would do the trick.

ta
Ian

 

[Mr Hipp]

If EPG grabbing is not executing when the change is taking place, then there is no way the recorder can adapt to the new condition.

 

[iancalderban]

If EPG grabbing is not executing when the change is taking place, then there is no way the recorder can adapt to the new condition.

agreed. but if it is (grabbing), will it (adapt)? what determines the end time of a recording? can it be updated whilst recording is in progress, or only when the recording is set up?
Ian