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<blockquote data-quote="Floorhor" data-source="post: 1148403" data-attributes="member: 153765">'Again, I just don't know what you're talking about'.&nbsp; You're definitely a nice guy, but I'm gobsmacked![ATTACH=full]168187[/ATTACH] I so want this to work, and the idea is so great.&nbsp; I don't know, but I would bet a lot of money that there are untold numbers of people who just said screw it and uninstalled.&nbsp; I hung in there when a normal non-programmer person would just run.&nbsp; I so don't want to cut and run, but it's just one thing after another.&nbsp; And I repeat spachti, I never use anything for free after I'm comfortable with it.&nbsp; You guys definitely love what you do, but as lovingly as I can, you need to make this with the non-programmer in mind.&nbsp; You need to absolutely expect frustration, especially when you are fishing for donations.&nbsp; Here's another thing to consider, it's more likely if there are numerous issues during setup, a potential contributor will take into account the time and frustration involved and deduct that amount from a potential donation.&nbsp; Just saying.Maybe I'm trying to fit a round peg in a square hole.&nbsp; Maybe I don't understand the Open Source philosophy.&nbsp; Maybe I'll only be happy with very mature projects, and steer clear of younger.&nbsp; Maybe a better approach is for Open Source practitioners to shoot with a laser, not a shotgun.&nbsp; Do one thing well for the non-programmer, 'perfect it', and then add more functionality.&nbsp; Maybe Apple was wise to control their platform with an iron fist.&nbsp; That can't right.&nbsp; I hate, yet admire Apple.&nbsp; Well maybe not hate.&nbsp; Maybe it's fun to feign hate!So I will remove Pandora (I kind of figured it was crap) and Moving Pictures (didn't figure it was crap).&nbsp; Get back to square one, and then maybe try kiwijunglist's recommendation to install streamedmp, although it scares me to death.[DOUBLEPOST=1439647455][/DOUBLEPOST]I haven't changed skins, so my installation is native.&nbsp; I changed the default video plugin to moving pictures.&nbsp; No joy.Where do I get streamedmp?&nbsp; It appears there is only a StreamedMP MOD on MP extension installer.[DOUBLEPOST=1439648644][/DOUBLEPOST]Still no data in the tv guide, although tv reception and playback seems to work fine.&nbsp; It broke after I installed Pandora and Moving Pictures plugins.&nbsp; Here's what I've done to solve it.<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">stopped and started the service in 'Manual Control' in TV Server Configuration.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">I've force imported a new tvguide.xml file in the XmlTV plugin.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">I've disabled and re-enabled XmlTV, followed by stopping and starting service.</li>
</ul>I've attached a log</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Floorhor, post: 1148403, member: 153765"] 'Again, I just don't know what you're talking about'. You're definitely a nice guy, but I'm gobsmacked! [ATTACH=full]168187[/ATTACH] I so want this to work, and the idea is so great. I don't know, but I would bet a lot of money that there are untold numbers of people who just said screw it and uninstalled. I hung in there when a normal non-programmer person would just run. I so don't want to cut and run, but it's just one thing after another. And I repeat spachti, I never use anything for free after I'm comfortable with it. You guys definitely love what you do, but as lovingly as I can, you need to make this with the non-programmer in mind. You need to absolutely expect frustration, especially when you are fishing for donations. Here's another thing to consider, it's more likely if there are numerous issues during setup, a potential contributor will take into account the time and frustration involved and deduct that amount from a potential donation. Just saying. Maybe I'm trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. Maybe I don't understand the Open Source philosophy. Maybe I'll only be happy with very mature projects, and steer clear of younger. Maybe a better approach is for Open Source practitioners to shoot with a laser, not a shotgun. Do one thing well for the non-programmer, 'perfect it', and then add more functionality. Maybe Apple was wise to control their platform with an iron fist. That can't right. I hate, yet admire Apple. Well maybe not hate. Maybe it's fun to feign hate! So I will remove Pandora (I kind of figured it was crap) and Moving Pictures (didn't figure it was crap). Get back to square one, and then maybe try kiwijunglist's recommendation to install streamedmp, although it scares me to death.[DOUBLEPOST=1439647455][/DOUBLEPOST] I haven't changed skins, so my installation is native. I changed the default video plugin to moving pictures. No joy. Where do I get streamedmp? It appears there is only a StreamedMP MOD on MP extension installer.[DOUBLEPOST=1439648644][/DOUBLEPOST]Still no data in the tv guide, although tv reception and playback seems to work fine. It broke after I installed Pandora and Moving Pictures plugins. Here's what I've done to solve it. [LIST] [*]stopped and started the service in 'Manual Control' in TV Server Configuration. [*]I've force imported a new tvguide.xml file in the XmlTV plugin. [*]I've disabled and re-enabled XmlTV, followed by stopping and starting service. [/LIST] I've attached a log [/QUOTE]

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