Codecs SAF v5.02 *final* (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder) (22 Viewers)

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Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

Thanks ..that answers my original question
and it also gave me some details I wasnt aware of..
 

pirivan

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I'm still trying to get a clip of an .ogm for Hoborg to test but I'm having a heck of a time trying to find an application that will run on Windows 7 x64 that can used to split .ogm files. Does anyone have a suggestion for this or an .ogm file sample we could use for testing? I feel like ffdshow just needs to be configured correctly in SAF 5.00 to support .ogm I am just afraid of installing haali etc and messing with the codec setup to "fix" the problem. My install is so clean I don't want to mess with it more than I have to!
 

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Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

I'm still trying to get a clip of an .ogm for Hoborg to test but I'm having a heck of a time trying to find an application that will run on Windows 7 x64 that can used to split .ogm files. Does anyone have a suggestion for this or an .ogm file sample we could use for testing? I feel like ffdshow just needs to be configured correctly in SAF 5.00 to support .ogm I am just afraid of installing haali etc and messing with the codec setup to "fix" the problem. My install is so clean I don't want to mess with it more than I have to!

Hi.
I downloades some OGM sample, did small change in SAF and now it is working. I will post new SAF release soon.
 

pirivan

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Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

I'm still trying to get a clip of an .ogm for Hoborg to test but I'm having a heck of a time trying to find an application that will run on Windows 7 x64 that can used to split .ogm files. Does anyone have a suggestion for this or an .ogm file sample we could use for testing? I feel like ffdshow just needs to be configured correctly in SAF 5.00 to support .ogm I am just afraid of installing haali etc and messing with the codec setup to "fix" the problem. My install is so clean I don't want to mess with it more than I have to!

Hi.
I downloades some OGM sample, did small change in SAF and now it is working. I will post new SAF release soon.

Wow thank you! I will test out the new version for sure and report back!:D
 

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I'm still trying to get a clip of an .ogm for Hoborg to test but I'm having a heck of a time trying to find an application that will run on Windows 7 x64 that can used to split .ogm files. Does anyone have a suggestion for this or an .ogm file sample we could use for testing? I feel like ffdshow just needs to be configured correctly in SAF 5.00 to support .ogm I am just afraid of installing haali etc and messing with the codec setup to "fix" the problem. My install is so clean I don't want to mess with it more than I have to!

Hi.
I downloades some OGM sample, did small change in SAF and now it is working. I will post new SAF release soon.

Wow thank you! I will test out the new version for sure and report back!:D

I did an mistake, i have OGG sample, not OGM.
Acording to wikipedia, OGG container support .ogv, .oga, .ogx, .ogg, .spx extensions, but not "OGM". So what exactly is this "*.OGM" file you have?
 

pirivan

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Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

Hi.
I downloades some OGM sample, did small change in SAF and now it is working. I will post new SAF release soon.

Wow thank you! I will test out the new version for sure and report back!:D

I did an mistake, i have OGG sample, not OGM.
Acording to wikipedia, OGG container support .ogv, .oga, .ogx, .ogg, .spx extensions, but not "OGM". So what exactly is this "*.OGM" file you have?

I found a decent definition of OGM for you:

"Ogg Media (OGM), meaning Ogg Media File, is a container format (for video, audio and subtitle streams). It was developed by Tobias Waldvogel and can do a few things the common AVI format cannot. OGM's features include in particular:

* Chapter support
* Multiple subtitle tracks
* Multiple audio tracks of various formats (MP3, AC3, AAC, Vorbis, LPCM)
* Vorbis audio support (there is no standard way for AVI to support Vorbis, making any attempt unreliable and potentially incompatible with players)

OGM support for Windows (Including Microsoft's Windows Media Player) is available via Tobias's own OggDS, Haali Media Splitter, VLC, or RadLight's Ogg Media filters (the last of which can also decode Theora video). On Unix-based systems OGM support is available in MPlayer, xine and VLC."

Here is where I pulled the definition from if you want more details:

Ogg Media - encyclopedia article about Ogg Media.

Basically the OGM files I have are mostly containers for an xvid video stream and a vorbis audio stream (and a subtitles stream).
 

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Here is next SAF revision:

SAF 5.00 SVN100809:
- ALL - MPC-HC filters/player updated to rev. 1.3.2220 (xhmikosr build)
- ALL - FFDShow updated to rev.3488 (xhmikosr build)
- ALL - added *.OGG support
- ALL - DXVA checker updated to 2.3.0.0
- GB-PVR- Updated czech translation

BTW, DTS + libavcodec should be OK now.

EDIT:
I just noticed MPC-HC player crash in this SAF build, this have no effect for MePo playback.


I found a decent definition of OGM for you:

"Ogg Media (OGM), meaning Ogg Media File, is a container format (for video, audio and subtitle streams). It was developed by Tobias Waldvogel and can do a few things the common AVI format cannot. OGM's features include in particular:

* Chapter support
* Multiple subtitle tracks
* Multiple audio tracks of various formats (MP3, AC3, AAC, Vorbis, LPCM)
* Vorbis audio support (there is no standard way for AVI to support Vorbis, making any attempt unreliable and potentially incompatible with players)

OGM support for Windows (Including Microsoft's Windows Media Player) is available via Tobias's own OggDS, Haali Media Splitter, VLC, or RadLight's Ogg Media filters (the last of which can also decode Theora video). On Unix-based systems OGM support is available in MPlayer, xine and VLC."

Here is where I pulled the definition from if you want more details:

Ogg Media - encyclopedia article about Ogg Media.

Basically the OGM files I have are mostly containers for an xvid video stream and a vorbis audio stream (and a subtitles stream).

OK, then try new SAF build. If it will be still not working, i will need an OGM sample to test (didnt found any by myself).
 

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    Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

    ATI HD3200 is too slow for HDTV + the current mediaportal releases, go back to MP 1.0 Final or buy a faster video card. If you have an HT3 CPU you can try overclocking the HT + GPU core.

    I strongly disagree with that. My ATI 3200 is very capable of running hd-videos/bd-rips without too many heat generation/cpu usage. The only problems I have are with live-tv. And I can't imagine a difference between mediaportal 1.0 and 1.1 when watching fullscreen videos. The only thing that should make a difference is codecs/video drivers
     

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    Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

    Sorry doskavouter, I should be more specific...

    When I say HD3200 too slow for HDTV, i mean Live HDTV not HD video playback. Quite a few changes to rendering introduced between MP1.0 Final and MP1.0.2 which led to increased gpu requirements for DXVA of live HDTV @ full HD resolutions.

    My onboard HD3200 was fast enough for HDTV in MP1.0 Final, then became to slow for HDTV in 1.0.2, it still managed to play 1080P video. I had partial improvement with increasing the HT & gpu core. If I used non dxva codec, then that also had partial improvement. Since then I've changed to discrete gpu.

    EDIT: Also the HT speed of the CPU has a strong influence on how fast the onboard HD3200 can access the shared memory, so different users can have different experiences depending on HT2 vs HT3 CPU.
     

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    I strongly disagree with that. My ATI 3200 is very capable of running hd-videos/bd-rips without too many heat generation/cpu usage. The only problems I have are with live-tv. And I can't imagine a difference between mediaportal 1.0 and 1.1 when watching fullscreen videos. The only thing that should make a difference is codecs/video drivers

    That is not exactly true. MP have its own code to play LiveTV (TV recordings). So if you play FullHD MKV it will be working fine using ATI 3200 DXVA, but FullHD TS file is different story. You can try rename your recording from *.TS to *.M2TS to disable MePo TS reader and use SAF one, or try to play your TS recording directly in Graphstudio to eliminate MePo factor completly.
     

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