Codecs SAF v6 (based on LAVF) (3 Viewers)

[alltheway]

Re: SAF v6.00 (based on LAVF)

@alltheway:

I will look on your samples, but not until 10.07.

There is a filter in FFDshow DXVA decoder - this preset should disable DXVA for MP4 with 50FPS, becouse there is a bug in FFDshow DXVA decoder - stutterring. Maybe the your sample is afected too.
BTW, if you just rename *.MP4 to *.MKV - does DXVA start to work?

Yes it does, and the movie plays fine, but only with Graphstudio and MePo, WMP11 plays it as before, I don't no with what codecs but the system tray is empty, no icons for FFDSHOW, and of course no subtitles, while with "real" MKV played with WMP I get DXVA support.

Another problem with SAF 6.0, many Divx 720p avi files don't play with WMP, it says WMP cannot play the file, there is a problem with the video card, but if I uninstall SAF 6.0, these movies play fine with WMP. Here is an extract from Media Info from that kind of files:

General
Complete name                    : Sherlock.Holmes.2009.720p.BRRip.XviD.AC3-ViSiON.avi
Format                           : AVI
Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile                   : OpenDML
File size                        : 3.42 GiB
Duration                         : 2h 8mn
Overall bit rate                 : 3 814 Kbps
Writing application              : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2542/release)
Writing library                  : VirtualDubMod build 2542/release

Video
ID                               : 0
Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                   : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
Format settings, QPel            : No
Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix          : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode                      : Packed bitstream
Codec ID                         : XVID
Codec ID/Hint                    : XviD
Duration                         : 2h 8mn
Bit rate                         : 3 356 Kbps
Width                            : 1 280 pixels
Height                           : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.152
Stream size                      : 3.01 GiB (88%)
Writing library                  : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)

Audio
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                   : CM (complete main)
Codec ID                         : 2000
Duration                         : 2h 8mn
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                        : 16 bits
Stream size                      : 411 MiB (12%)
Alignment                        : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration             : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration     : 500 ms

EDIT: How can I use Graphstudio to find out what codecs/filters are used when WMP is playing a video?

Thanks

 

[hoborg]

Re: SAF v6.00 (based on LAVF)

@alltheway:
SAF doesnot have any support for WMP (use MPC-HC instead).
But i will look what can be done.
Can you post such small AVI sample?

WMP have hidden graph, Graphstudio wont work here.

 

[alltheway]

Re: SAF v6.00 (based on LAVF)

@alltheway:
SAF doesnot have any support for WMP (use MPC-HC instead).
But i will look what can be done.
Can you post such small AVI sample?

WMP have hidden graph, Graphstudio wont work here.

Thanks again, here are 10 sec. of a typical Xvid 720p avi which causes an error if played by WMP while SAF 6.0 is installed.

Xvid_not_playing_with_WMP.avi - download now for free. File sharing. Software file sharing. Free file hosting. File upload. FileFactory.com

As you have mentioned before, I can always play them with MPC-HC, and as long as they play fine with MePo, it's really no biggie
Many Thanks.

 

[p750mmx]

Re: SAF v6.00 (based on LAVF)

No problem with the system where I installed SAF 6.xx. and WMP(12). WMP plays the file fine. No error.
Windows 7 SP1, 32b with SAF 6.00 SVN20110609

 

[D3ltoroxp]

AW: SAF v6.00 (based on LAVF)

is this a normal problem from windows ? I have an AVR with HDMI. When i watched tv the avr is off and passtrough the signal to the tv. My TV have Stereo Sound, also the maximum speakers are 2. When i start my avr windows don't check this and shows still max 2 channels and no supported audioformat, so when i watch an film i have no sound, except the film has stereo only. When i restart my htpc and the avr is on all works fine, all audioformats can be played, and max 8 channels are supported. I think its an handshake problem from windows 7 ? Has anyone the problem ?

 

[SiLenTYL]

Re: SAF v6.00 (based on LAVF)

Ive heard thats a HDMI issue, i dont have it myself but it has been spoken about in the forums before. A forum search will help you there.

 

[Sparky_Ol]

AW: Re: AW: Re: SAF v6.00 (based on LAVF)

Can you try to play it in graphstudio?

No Problem there: LAV -> ffdshow(DXVA) -> EVR.

So there is something strange while playing in MePo.....

Sparky

Hello Sparky,

I have the same problem, and I see your MKV has embedded subtitles, exactly as mine, I also found out that if I play in MePo a movie without subs for a second or two, then playing movies with subs causes no problems. In my case I found that even playing a movie in windows, any movie, then loading MePo and playing MKV with subs is OK.

When booting to windows, then loading MePo, then playing the first file, an MKV with subtitles I get the following:

View attachment 84776

and then MePo CTD. Even disabling subs with DXVA doesn't help.

I get a "Mediaportal Funktioniert nicht mehr" (Mediaportal does not work anymore)-Screen and the only option is to close MePo
and go back to dektop.

I found the problem in my case, maybe it will help you, the problem is with LAV splitter. if I untick the selection box, view next picture:

View attachment 84778

and delete the language codes from sound and sub, everything works fine. Maybe deselecting the box is enough but I was so tired from the problem that I left it that way.

Where do you get this Option-Window?

BTW Sparky, how do you change subtitles when using DXVA for subtitles, the S key on the keyboard is for something else, and I also have a remote, but didn't find the way.

My HTPC is the only TV/Media Source in the living room, so i have to bee verry carefull with changes and experiments, otherwise i´ll have some troubles with my wife and the kids.

Im using it standalone, wich means after booting you´ll get directly into Mediaportal (Streamed MP). Therefore i´m controling it with my "Medion" X10-Remote (the big one). I´m changing subtitles via the button "DVD-Menu".

Sparky

 

[hoborg]

Re: SAF v6.00 (based on LAVF)

@alltheway:
SAF doesnot have any support for WMP (use MPC-HC instead).
But i will look what can be done.
Can you post such small AVI sample?

WMP have hidden graph, Graphstudio wont work here.

Thanks again, here are 10 sec. of a typical Xvid 720p avi which causes an error if played by WMP while SAF 6.0 is installed.

Xvid_not_playing_with_WMP.avi - download now for free. File sharing. Software file sharing. Free file hosting. File upload. FileFactory.com

As you have mentioned before, I can always play them with MPC-HC, and as long as they play fine with MePo, it's really no biggie
Many Thanks.

Cannot reproduce, WMP play your sample without any problem. Win7 x64 here.

Hi hoborg,

Here are he samples of the two files:

Artifacts_with_DXVA-004.mkv:

I can reproduce this. Looks like it is a bug in FFDshow DXVA decoder, MPC-HC and PDVD DXVA decoders working just fine.

Not_playing_with_dxva.mp4:

This will be fixed in next SAF.

 

[alltheway]

Re: SAF v6.00 (based on LAVF)

Sparky_Ol, you should play an MKV in windows so you get the little FFDSHOW icon on the system tray, you click on it with Right Mouse Button, choose LAV Splitter, there you can untick as per my attached photo.

hoborg, thanks for your feedback

Quote:
Originally Posted by alltheway
Hi hoborg,

Here are he samples of the two files:

Artifacts_with_DXVA-004.mkv:

I can reproduce this. Looks like it is a bug in FFDshow DXVA decoder, MPC-HC and PDVD DXVA decoders working just fine.

I hope it will be fixed in the future.

Quote:
Originally Posted by alltheway
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoborg
alltheway:
SAF doesnot have any support for WMP (use MPC-HC instead).
But i will look what can be done.
Can you post such small AVI sample?

WMP have hidden graph, Graphstudio wont work here.

Thanks again, here are 10 sec. of a typical Xvid 720p avi which causes an error if played by WMP while SAF 6.0 is installed.

Xvid_not_playing_with_WMP.avi - download now for free. File sharing. Software file sharing. Free file hosting. File upload. FileFactory.com

As you have mentioned before, I can always play them with MPC-HC, and as long as they play fine with MePo, it's really no biggie
Many Thanks.

Cannot reproduce, WMP play your sample without any problem. Win7 x64 here.

Do you get FFDSHOW icon on system tray? Catalyst version 11.6? SAF - saf600_110620.exe?

I can play it fine with Windows MC, shouldn't it be the same with WMP?

Do you have any other Filters/Codecs installed on your machine that might do the differenc? My PC has Windows 7 64 x64 SP1 installed, MePo 1.1.3 and SAF 6.0, cannot get any leanner and cleaner, and yet I can't paly it with WMP

Thanks


p750mmx

I'm using saf600_110620.exe, so I get different filters/codecs, registry definitions?

Thanks anyway, I'll use MPC-HC for a while instead.

 

[tourettes]

Re: SAF v6.00 (based on LAVF)

Cannot reproduce, WMP play your sample without any problem. Win7 x64 here.

WMP uses MediaFoundation to play some file formats. Not sure if AVI is one of those, but if it is then WMP uses completely different framework (and filters of course) for the playback.