Codecs SAF v6 (based on LAVF) (8 Viewers)

[BrownGhost]

I had stutters when I made a fresh reinstall of Windows some days ago: I have a Nvidia card and checked the available screen resolutions/frequency combinations in the Nvidia Control Panel. Turned out that Windows did not recognize my TV and did not read out the EDID information the TV sends over HDMI. In device manager the TV was shown as PnP Monitor. This is an old Windows bug. My solution was to use Monitor Asset Manager to create a correct Monitor.inf file for my TV and repalce the standard one with this. Voila the missing screen resolutions/frequency combinations are available now and the stutter is gone. I had the same problem with an ATI Setup and it was also Windows 7 causing the troubles.

Hope this helps.

okay so i try it, the first thing i see is, its reporting my screen 46" it 60" so im already pretty sure this thing is not going to solve my isue

here is what the program reports my screen in..


Monitor
Model name............... SAMSUNG
Manufacturer............. Samsung
Plug and Play ID......... SAM07C5
Serial number............ 1
Manufacture date......... 2010, ISO week 46
Filter driver............ None
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EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 1020 x 570 mm (46,0 in)
Power management......... Not supported
Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
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DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2,20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0,640 - Ry 0,330
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0,300 - Gy 0,600
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0,150 - By 0,060
White point (default).... Wx 0,313 - Wy 0,329
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 26-81kHz
Vertical scan range...... 24-75Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 230MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148,500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1360x768p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1360x768" 85,500 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 67Hz - Apple Mac II
640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
832 x 624p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 75Hz - VESA
1152 x 870p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1152 x 864p at 75Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 800p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 960p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1440 x 900p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1440 x 900p at 75Hz - VESA STD
1680 x 1050p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1600 x 1200p at 60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
Revision number.......... 3
IT underscan............. Supported
Basic audio.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
Native formats........... 1
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148,500 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1280x720" 74,250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #3....... 1920x1080i at 50Hz (16:9)
Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74,250 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
1920 x 1080p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 25Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 30Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
Channel configuration.... 2.0
Front left/right......... Yes
Front LFE................ No
Front center............. No
Rear left/right.......... No
Rear center.............. No
Front left/right center.. No
Rear left/right center... No
Rear LFE................. No

CE video capability data
CE scan behavior......... Supports overscan and underscan
IT scan behavior......... Supports overscan and underscan
PT scan behavior......... Not supported
RGB quantization range... Not supported
YCC quantization range... Not supported

CE colorimetry data
xvYCC709 support......... Yes
xvYCC601 support......... Yes
sYCC601 support.......... No
AdobeYCC601 support...... No
AdobeRGB support......... No
Metadata profile flags... 0x01

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 4.0.0.0
Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
Supports 48bpp........... No
Supports 36bpp........... Yes
Supports 30bpp........... Yes
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
Supports dual-link DVI... No
Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz
Audio/video latency (p).. n/a
Audio/video latency (i).. n/a
HDMI video capabilities.. Yes
EDID screen size......... Rounded to nearest cm
3D structures supported.. Top-and-bottom, Side-by-side w. horizontal sub-sampling
3D formats supported..... Mandatory formats plus some primary VICs
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
1920 x 1080p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 25Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 30Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001
Data payload............. 030C004000B82D20D0080140073F405090A0

Report information
Date generated........... 04-04-2012
Software revision........ 2.60.0.972
Data source.............. Real-time 0x0031
Operating system......... 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1

 

[psykix]

Well.. I switched to the Tesla driver and still have the same problem..

I don't really understand what the issue could be - had to switch back to PDVD12 for now.

Surely if it is a graphics card issue, then it would affect the main single seat rather than live TV on the client it is streaming to?

Even disabled IPV6 in case that was related.

 

[BlueMax1916]

okay so i try it, the first thing i see is, its reporting my screen 46" it 60" so im already pretty sure this thing is not going to solve my isue

here is what the program reports my screen in..


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The utility reads the information that is coming from the screen. Not more and not less. It is not important what your screen size (diameter) actually is as long as the other information is right. Maybe Samsung just copies these data from one model to another and does not adapt some data. Screen resolutions and refresh rates is what you are looking for. You could save this information now into an .inf file and use this in Windows. For me it worked. I had some vital screen resolutions and refresh rates not showing up in Nvidia Control Panel. For example 1080i 25Hz was not listed and I had stutter exactly at that resolution and refresh rate. Other combinations had the same problem. After applying the .inf file those problems went away. No stutter. My TV was listed as PnP Monitor in device manager. Windows simply did not read out all the EDID (Wikipedia link) information that came over the HDMI cable.

By the way ATI graphics cards have problems reading and interpreting EDID data coming from Philips TV. That is a long-lasting driver bug resulting in weird colours. I experienced that with an E350 mainboard and finally had to change to Intel/Nvidia combo to cure the problem.

 

[BrownGhost]

... My solution was to use Monitor Asset Manager to create a correct Monitor.inf file for my TV and repalce the standard one with this. Voila the missing screen resolutions/frequency combinations are available now and the stutter is gone. I had the same problem with an ATI Setup and it was also Windows 7 causing the troubles.

Hope this helps.

Do you have an HDMI AV Receiver between your TV and the HTPC?

I have this kind of configuration (TV->AVR->HTPC all connected through HDMI) and experience stutters and all the videos don't play smooth with SAF 6.0.9 (or older). I have an ATI card with 12.2 drivers in my HTPC.

i have same stup HTPC
from htpc Optical to AV Reciver
from htpc HDMI to TV

 

[BrownGhost]

First I would try the refresh rate changer! Works fine on my Samsung 50" top model state of the art plasma TV

is it the Dynamic refresh rate changer, in settings in MePo you are talking about?
if i use = mepo crash ffmpeg is crashing.

i disabled it again, when to the ATI graphics card settings.
disabled ALL enhancements in there, every single ting i could find.
plays better looks better now..

From in there i set demo mode, split screen.. the screen showing me no enhancements look even better, the color are way better.
i have try every setting, but cant get color on enhanced side of demo to look the same.. no matter what i do.. what a shame..
the skin in dessert game of thrones 2x2 15 minutes in, looks way to red on enhanced demo side..

 

[CypherMK]

is it the Dynamic refresh rate changer, in settings in MePo you are talking about?
if i use = mepo crash ffmpeg is crashing.

i disabled it again, when to the ATI graphics card settings.
disabled ALL enhancements in there, every single ting i could find.
plays better looks better now..

From in there i set demo mode, split screen.. the screen showing me no enhancements look even better, the color are way better.
i have try every setting, but cant get color on enhanced side of demo to look the same.. no matter what i do.. what a shame..
the skin in dessert game of thrones 2x2 15 minutes in, looks way to red on enhanced demo side..

Yes. I mean the one in mediaportal configuration. Just enable it and try it without changing any options. Normally it should work.

But you say it crashes? What does exactly happen?

 

[BrownGhost]

i enable it, and i dont make changes. save setting, start mepo, play a movie = mepo crash, crash report show ffmpeg is crashing.

 

[CypherMK]

i enable it, and i dont make changes. save setting, start mepo, play a movie = mepo crash, crash report show ffmpeg is crashing.

Strange. What is your hardware? Do you use saf? Or other codec packs?

P.s. It is wise to provide your system specs under your profile!

 

[BrownGhost]

i enable it, and i dont make changes. save setting, start mepo, play a movie = mepo crash, crash report show ffmpeg is crashing.

Strange. What is your hardware? Do you use saf? Or other codec packs?

P.s. It is wise to provide your system specs under your profile!

the first post i made had all info, here it is again..
+ i will update my profile

SAF 6.0.9
MePo 1.2.2

Computer win 7 64 bit
6 giga ram
ATI 5xxx mobility radion (is this getting to weak to handle HD movies??) Newst drivers 12.3 from AMD

My tv is brand new 60" Samsung Top model 800mhz LED tv

and my settings are

 

[CypherMK]

I think the hardware shouldn't be a problem. It is strange that mepo crashes.

If you manually set the refresh rate to 23hz in the ati control center. And then you play a hd movie. Does it stutter then?