Tagging of DTS Audio Files (1 Viewer)

[shorty1483]

Referring to this thread https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/...s-with-dts-sound-only-whitenoise.93753/page-5 , I still found it very annoying to always have problems with my DTS WAV files, so I put them in a mka container last year, but put them back to .dts Files last week.

Now to my last problem and the reason for my post: How do I get any tagging working with the .dts files?

Before anyone asks, I just can bitstream DTS and DD as 5.1, so flac or any other lossless format is no option for me atm.

After lots of reading and trying with different formats, I came to a totally confusing idea. Why not just renaming the proper .dts file as .mp3 and see what happens. This was the result:



In words:
- in mediainfo the fileinfos are not readable anymore, just size -> No problem for me
- when renamed to .mp3, MP3Tag and MPTagThat were able put the correct ID3 into the file, even embedded Cover
- MePo and MediaPlayer play the file without problems
- MePo recognized the fake-MP3 files and added the ID3 infos to its music-DB and used the embedded cover
- Fanart-Handler and other Plugins updated it's DBs to like on the Pics above
- Only small issue: In the album folder, the duration info for the fake-MP3 is wrong, but in PlayNow it's right


Please feel free to test this method with one of your .dts files if you have. According to my small tests, this method works also with 6-channel .wav (44,1 kHz and 48 kHz) and 44,1 kHz .dts. I'm very interested if this is a common method which works for everyone.

 

[jameson_uk]

The issue with DTS in WAV files is that you need to ensure the signal is untouched between the file and the output. If you are re-sampling to 48Khz then you don't really have the same input anyway so you might as well decode the DTS and encode to a different format.

The DTS files I have I just bitstream straight to my amp (I store them as DTS bitstreams extracted from DVD; so no WAV file) and I use WMPPlayer. Issue here is tagging... I do this manually straight into the database however this is not ideal.

Where I want to get with this is MKA files which can be tagged and can contain DTS bitstreams. Using this route the DTS is just sent to your amp as it is in a film but you get the benefit of tagging. If this does not work now, it will do soon

 

[shorty1483]

The issue with DTS in WAV files is that you need to ensure the signal is untouched between the file and the output. If you are re-sampling to 48Khz then you don't really have the same input anyway so you might as well decode the DTS and encode to a different format.

The DTS files I have I just bitstream straight to my amp (I store them as DTS bitstreams extracted from DVD; so no WAV file) and I use WMPPlayer. Issue here is tagging... I do this manually straight into the database however this is not ideal.

Where I want to get with this is MKA files which can be tagged and can contain DTS bitstreams. Using this route the DTS is just sent to your amp as it is in a film but you get the benefit of tagging. If this does not work now, it will do soon

I also had the 44,1 KHz dts wavs in mka container, but after not hearing it for several months and updating LAV and FFdshow, I recognized the problem of no sound again, even now in mka containers But i backed up the untouched source files till I have more time to look on the codec problem. Do you use SPDIF or HDMI connection and whats your setup for dts bitstreaming if I may ask?

Could you just please try the renaming experiment with one of your 44,1 KHz files and see if it works? For me, this is a very practical way until we have mka tagging support in MePo.

 

[Helios61]

How do I get any tagging working with the .dts files?

IMO the easiest way is to convert to .flac.

Allgemein
Vollständiger Name					  : F:\Test\Dire Straits (1998) - Sultans of Swing - The Very Best of (DTS 5.1 flac)\01 - Sultans Of Swing.flac
Format								  : FLAC
Format/Info							  : Free Lossless Audio Codec
Dateigröße							  : 103 MiB
Dauer									: 5min 50s
Modus der Gesamtbitrate				  : variabel
Gesamte Bitrate						  : 2 474 Kbps
Album									: Sultans of Swing - The Very Best of
Album/Künstler						  : Dire Straits / Dire Straits
Teil									: 01/01
Track-Name							  : Sultans Of Swing
Track-Name/Position					  : 01/16
Künstler								: Dire Straits
Genre									: Rock
Aufnahmedatum							: 1998
Cover									: Yes
Cover-Typ								: Cover (front)
Cover-MIME							  : image/jpeg
 
Audio
Format								  : FLAC
Format/Info							  : Free Lossless Audio Codec
Dauer									: 5min 50s
Bitraten-Modus						  : variabel
Bitrate								  : 2 471 Kbps
Kanäle								  : 6 Kanäle
Samplingrate							: 44,1 KHz
BitDepth/String						  : 16 bits
Stream-Größe							: 103 MiB (100%)
verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek			: libFLAC 1.2.1 (UTC 2007-09-17)

Best regards
Helios

 

[shorty1483]

How do I get any tagging working with the .dts files?

IMO the easiest way is to convert to .flac.

Allgemein
Vollständiger Name					  : F:\Test\Dire Straits (1998) - Sultans of Swing - The Very Best of (DTS 5.1 flac)\01 - Sultans Of Swing.flac
Format								  : FLAC
Format/Info							  : Free Lossless Audio Codec
Dateigröße							  : 103 MiB
Dauer									: 5min 50s
Modus der Gesamtbitrate				  : variabel
Gesamte Bitrate						  : 2 474 Kbps
Album									: Sultans of Swing - The Very Best of
Album/Künstler						  : Dire Straits / Dire Straits
Teil									: 01/01
Track-Name							  : Sultans Of Swing
Track-Name/Position					  : 01/16
Künstler								: Dire Straits
Genre									: Rock
Aufnahmedatum							: 1998
Cover									: Yes
Cover-Typ								: Cover (front)
Cover-MIME							  : image/jpeg
 
Audio
Format								  : FLAC
Format/Info							  : Free Lossless Audio Codec
Dauer									: 5min 50s
Bitraten-Modus						  : variabel
Bitrate								  : 2 471 Kbps
Kanäle								  : 6 Kanäle
Samplingrate							: 44,1 KHz
BitDepth/String						  : 16 bits
Stream-Größe							: 103 MiB (100%)
verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek			: libFLAC 1.2.1 (UTC 2007-09-17)

Best regards
Helios

I know, but that makes no sense for me with 5.1 Files, because my A/V just decodes DTS and AC3. But I use flac for my 2.0 Lossless collection.