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<blockquote data-quote="SirShagsalot" data-source="post: 507476" data-attributes="member: 62435"><p><strong>Touchscreen Skin - Yeah baby</strong></p><p></p><p>Folks,</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I applaud your resolve. </p><p></p><p>I am in the same boat and have considered to hack up some skins to make them TS friendly.</p><p></p><p>I am running Xface on my MPPC (OrigenAE S16T case).</p><p></p><p>I find most things are easy to control. </p><p></p><p>My main gripes are:</p><p></p><p>1) Arrows to scroll through screens are too small (like way too small - need to use the nail of my pinky to shift), so I mostly use the rather nice OrigenAE remote.</p><p></p><p>2) Too much of the screen surface is active and reacts erratically.</p><p></p><p>3) Everytime I try using the foldout menu on the left hand side it changes the View (from whatever is used to the next one in the list). Worse, when trying to touch the first item in the screen the menu most of the time jumps out.</p><p></p><p>Also, I find that any such Media Apps I use in distinctly different ways. The "library kiosk" mode is for music, playing movies from the HDD (or rather browsing for them), watching TV I'd never touch a local touchscreen on the Media PC, nor would I when the main display is on use the local screen, unless I'm closer to it that to the remote. So the "touchscreen" part has actually very different requirements to the rest.</p><p></p><p>So, X-Face with the right scroll buttons in Video's/Movies/Music plus sensible behaviour of "inactive" screen areas would probably be fine, I do rather like the "coverflow" type screen in X-Face.</p><p></p><p>All of this, plus the fact that Media Portal while all inclusive is not "best of breed" in any area (examples - video playback - Media Player Classic HC is way better, so we carry the bloat of MP to start MPC-HC, audio playback - Foobar or Cplay are the ones to use , again - external player [a shout to Symphy - his ASIO Music Player for MP is very good too]) has made me think about a simple "menu" software instead. In my use at least I use MP strictly as Menu for about 2/3rds of my use (same for GF).</p><p></p><p>So, why not have a "MediaMenu" & "MediaCrawler" Software twinning which can activate external Apps (like MP for TV) and simply play back any media using "system default" (in other words WIMP-WIndozeMediaPlayer on M$ Stuff) or a set program. Menu's in the interest of speed should be static HTML Files, having html pages that contain IMDB or Album Info and "play Now" buttons would be snazzy, as would be a "Play Now" overlay button on the cover image.</p><p></p><p>The "MediaCrawler" uses Idle time or very low loading <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />to update the html file database, downloads coverart, IMDB Info etc. This stuff already exists in several pieces all over, including inside Media Portal. Ideally fully crossplatform capable (means runs Win/Mac/Nux).</p><p></p><p>At the most basic level the "MediaMenu" application would be the system default HTML viewer, but as most web browsers nowadays are bloatware of a class that makes late 1990's Corel Draw distributions seem modest (I remember when it came on as many CD's as my original first Windows Graphics, DTP, Photoediting and Office Software had 3.5 Floppy Disks!), a dedicated "lean and mean" crossplatform application that does not understand "http", only local disk files would likely be a better choice.</p><p></p><p>Not sure how to best integrate the remote into such an app, but again, all this exists already in MP..</p><p></p><p>Ideally such a "Media-Menu" would be usable on Playback Streamers like the PopcornHour, would perhaps be integrable into Geexbox and would work on any Windoze, Li(ob)nox or MacInToss Computer. </p><p></p><p>As static index files need to be generated somewhere, one could have a few templates optimised for Remote Control, Mouse/Keybd control and Touchscreen/Remote control. </p><p></p><p>Given that we now start seeing loads of cheap touchscreen portables and nettops (eg. EEE Top and MSI Wind all in ones) the touchscreen </p><p></p><p>Add Themes (Skins) and we have a perfect "library" engine that ideally is very lightweight (how about twice the size of the original Mosaic Webbrowser - I once made a database publishing system that put a whole huge product catalog on line some time in the mid 90's), crossplatform and hopefully easy to use.</p><p></p><p>The actual applications playing Media, recording Media and so on are whatever you have downloaded, bought, found free on your HDD and so on.</p><p></p><p>MAYBE, JUST maybe there would be a point forking such a project out of MP (because from all the HTPC Apps I have tried I like MP best and that includes many "paid for" ones. </p><p></p><p>XLobby may have looked like an option at some point in time, but it has since turned into an Ozzloom Bird and nothing else seems on the horizon. </p><p></p><p>Heck, I'd even PAY for such a piece of software (say 50 Euro tops).</p><p></p><p>So, for starters Touchscreen friendly Skins are extremely welcome, but maybe other options are better in the long run?</p><p></p><p>Greez SSAL</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SirShagsalot, post: 507476, member: 62435"] [b]Touchscreen Skin - Yeah baby[/b] Folks, I applaud your resolve. I am in the same boat and have considered to hack up some skins to make them TS friendly. I am running Xface on my MPPC (OrigenAE S16T case). I find most things are easy to control. My main gripes are: 1) Arrows to scroll through screens are too small (like way too small - need to use the nail of my pinky to shift), so I mostly use the rather nice OrigenAE remote. 2) Too much of the screen surface is active and reacts erratically. 3) Everytime I try using the foldout menu on the left hand side it changes the View (from whatever is used to the next one in the list). Worse, when trying to touch the first item in the screen the menu most of the time jumps out. Also, I find that any such Media Apps I use in distinctly different ways. The "library kiosk" mode is for music, playing movies from the HDD (or rather browsing for them), watching TV I'd never touch a local touchscreen on the Media PC, nor would I when the main display is on use the local screen, unless I'm closer to it that to the remote. So the "touchscreen" part has actually very different requirements to the rest. So, X-Face with the right scroll buttons in Video's/Movies/Music plus sensible behaviour of "inactive" screen areas would probably be fine, I do rather like the "coverflow" type screen in X-Face. All of this, plus the fact that Media Portal while all inclusive is not "best of breed" in any area (examples - video playback - Media Player Classic HC is way better, so we carry the bloat of MP to start MPC-HC, audio playback - Foobar or Cplay are the ones to use , again - external player [a shout to Symphy - his ASIO Music Player for MP is very good too]) has made me think about a simple "menu" software instead. In my use at least I use MP strictly as Menu for about 2/3rds of my use (same for GF). So, why not have a "MediaMenu" & "MediaCrawler" Software twinning which can activate external Apps (like MP for TV) and simply play back any media using "system default" (in other words WIMP-WIndozeMediaPlayer on M$ Stuff) or a set program. Menu's in the interest of speed should be static HTML Files, having html pages that contain IMDB or Album Info and "play Now" buttons would be snazzy, as would be a "Play Now" overlay button on the cover image. The "MediaCrawler" uses Idle time or very low loading :Dto update the html file database, downloads coverart, IMDB Info etc. This stuff already exists in several pieces all over, including inside Media Portal. Ideally fully crossplatform capable (means runs Win/Mac/Nux). At the most basic level the "MediaMenu" application would be the system default HTML viewer, but as most web browsers nowadays are bloatware of a class that makes late 1990's Corel Draw distributions seem modest (I remember when it came on as many CD's as my original first Windows Graphics, DTP, Photoediting and Office Software had 3.5 Floppy Disks!), a dedicated "lean and mean" crossplatform application that does not understand "http", only local disk files would likely be a better choice. Not sure how to best integrate the remote into such an app, but again, all this exists already in MP.. Ideally such a "Media-Menu" would be usable on Playback Streamers like the PopcornHour, would perhaps be integrable into Geexbox and would work on any Windoze, Li(ob)nox or MacInToss Computer. As static index files need to be generated somewhere, one could have a few templates optimised for Remote Control, Mouse/Keybd control and Touchscreen/Remote control. Given that we now start seeing loads of cheap touchscreen portables and nettops (eg. EEE Top and MSI Wind all in ones) the touchscreen Add Themes (Skins) and we have a perfect "library" engine that ideally is very lightweight (how about twice the size of the original Mosaic Webbrowser - I once made a database publishing system that put a whole huge product catalog on line some time in the mid 90's), crossplatform and hopefully easy to use. The actual applications playing Media, recording Media and so on are whatever you have downloaded, bought, found free on your HDD and so on. MAYBE, JUST maybe there would be a point forking such a project out of MP (because from all the HTPC Apps I have tried I like MP best and that includes many "paid for" ones. XLobby may have looked like an option at some point in time, but it has since turned into an Ozzloom Bird and nothing else seems on the horizon. Heck, I'd even PAY for such a piece of software (say 50 Euro tops). So, for starters Touchscreen friendly Skins are extremely welcome, but maybe other options are better in the long run? Greez SSAL [/QUOTE]
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