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<blockquote data-quote="tortoise" data-source="post: 476725" data-attributes="member: 50735">Thanks a lot for the explanation. I disagree with you about the &quot;function&quot; and &quot;system thing&quot;. My point of view is that MP abstracts user from the underlying OS. Beeing only user interface, it should have the possibility to be turned off ANY time. Because MP acts as multimedia center (primarily TV/video/music player), I can compare it to the single-purpose devices. And I cannot image any, let's say, SONY or Panasonic TV/DVD player which ignores &quot;turn off&quot; command if it is not in specified state to be turned off. I can perfectly imagine that when MP receives something like PBT_APMQUERYSUSPEND message, it just can turn off Live TV automatically. There can be, of course, legacy reasons why it can't be made this way.BTW, the current behaviour when MP/TV-server silently cancels Sleep command even without notifying user what happened and why HTPC didn't go to sleep, seems to me pretty bad too. It makes perfectly sense to me too with one exception. From my point of view, system is being idle when it does not perform any automated task. And system should be able to distinguish between automated task (like active recording) which SHOULD prevent system from sleep and normal, user task, like active movieplayer, TV or teletext screen, which should be turned off IMHO before sleep.Because my family has learned that all devices (TV, HTPC, A/V receiver) turns off with just one keypress on Logitech Harmony. I try to keep it simple. And I - personally - preffer not to do an extra steps. I will look at the MP sources and see what can I do with this.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tortoise, post: 476725, member: 50735"] Thanks a lot for the explanation. I disagree with you about the "function" and "system thing". My point of view is that MP abstracts user from the underlying OS. Beeing only user interface, it should have the possibility to be turned off ANY time. Because MP acts as multimedia center (primarily TV/video/music player), I can compare it to the single-purpose devices. And I cannot image any, let's say, SONY or Panasonic TV/DVD player which ignores "turn off" command if it is not in specified state to be turned off. I can perfectly imagine that when MP receives something like PBT_APMQUERYSUSPEND message, it just can turn off Live TV automatically. There can be, of course, legacy reasons why it can't be made this way. BTW, the current behaviour when MP/TV-server silently cancels Sleep command even without notifying user what happened and why HTPC didn't go to sleep, seems to me pretty bad too. It makes perfectly sense to me too with one exception. From my point of view, system is being idle when it does not perform any automated task. And system should be able to distinguish between automated task (like active recording) which SHOULD prevent system from sleep and normal, user task, like active movieplayer, TV or teletext screen, which should be turned off IMHO before sleep. Because my family has learned that all devices (TV, HTPC, A/V receiver) turns off with just one keypress on Logitech Harmony. I try to keep it simple. And I - personally - preffer not to do an extra steps. I will look at the MP sources and see what can I do with this. [/QUOTE]

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