TVEngine3 Snapshot: 01-23-2008 05-08h Revision 17140 (2 Viewers)

[AmenRa]

I still have problems playing back recorded .ts files and I'm still getting stuttering in recorded .mpg.
Seems like TvService in crashing more often.

I agree. Bad to worse seems to be the trend. Would be nice if we actually changed course.

 

[elliottmc]

I still have problems playing back recorded .ts files and I'm still getting stuttering in recorded .mpg.
Seems like TvService in crashing more often.

I agree. Bad to worse seems to be the trend. Would be nice if we actually changed course.

Thanks for the helpful comment. Glad to see you're doing your bit to improve MediaPortal !

Try posting a helpful bug report instead of moaning. For most of us, it's actually working quite well, and as you can see from the changelog, the developers are working hard to fix the problems.

You could always ask for your money back!

Mark

 

[AmenRa]

I still have problems playing back recorded .ts files and I'm still getting stuttering in recorded .mpg.
Seems like TvService in crashing more often.

I agree. Bad to worse seems to be the trend. Would be nice if we actually changed course.

Thanks for the helpful comment. Glad to see you're doing your bit to improve MediaPortal !

Try posting a helpful bug report instead of moaning. For most of us, it's actually working quite well, and as you can see from the changelog, the developers are working hard to fix the problems.

You could always ask for your money back!

Mark

Just four posts up. Of coarse if you actually bothered to look you wouldn't have made such an ignorant post.

And it would be nice if the developers actually DID address problems people reported. I don't know about a lot of other folks but every time I attempt to upgrade to get these so-called posted fixes (of in which some are what I am looking for) I end up rolling back to SVN 16638 to get anything to work properly and maintain stability. Every time the developer's touch something they break something else. Most people don't bother posting thier problems because the developers seem to tackle what ever problem that effects them personally instead of what needs to be addressed. If you don't like these type of posts then start fixing these issues.

 

[RobertinoM]

The Guys are doing a great Job..

and to be honest... even if the developers are fixing "only" problems that affect them... hey have you ever seen a solution like the tv-server and mediaportal FOR FREE! ?????

These guys have family and jobs and they are doing this project and they are working hard on it .. and I agree that for most of the people it works fine.. and there are sometimes bugs that hit me in my environment I am not so ego-centric to blame on them .. because I keep always in mind that it only affects me with my special environment..

So please instead of blaming .. support them with bug reports.. log-files... and maybe a donation

Finally I say thank you guys for the work you are doing !!!!

 

[elliottmc]

Just four posts up. Of coarse if you actually bothered to look you wouldn't have made such an ignorant post.

And it would be nice if the developers actually DID address problems people reported. I don't know about a lot of other folks but every time I attempt to upgrade to get these so-called posted fixes (of in which some are what I am looking for) I end up rolling back to SVN 16638 to get anything to work properly and maintain stability. Every time the developer's touch something they break something else. Most people don't bother posting thier problems because the developers seem to tackle what ever problem that effects them personally instead of what needs to be addressed. If you don't like these type of posts then start fixing these issues.

No, if you don't like having these problems, start fixing them yourself!

For what it's worth, I am not a developer. I lack the skills to fix the problems, and so I appreciate the help of those who do.

Regarding your bug report, it is difficult to see where this helps beyond the numerous other reports of a similar nature. If you take the time to read the forums, it is clear that there are problems on Vista64, and apparently none of the developers are using this operating system. Do you expect the developers to go out and buy a Vista64 computer in order to do testing to help a small number of people? I don't know how many people are making donations, but almost certainly not enough to cover these sort of expenses.

Let's get this into context. MediaPortal is free. Stability issues notwithstanding, it does more than Microsoft MCE and almost any other media centre software. It is actually pretty stable on most systems. People who are happy don't generally report it, so you get a distorted view.

Just relax, use the SVN which works for you and be a little patient. Hey, you could even use the old TV engine rather that TV Server. That is generally reckoned to be more stable, although I haven't used it for many months now.

Mark

 

[Paranoid Delusion]

If we had a American based Developer, it would help, but we have not got one.

Asidie (MP Test-team) and Noelix are the only 2 consistant reporters of problems that may be unique to the USA TV system, on these forums.

Anyway, apart from this obstacle, Gemx and the rest of the team, may have some good news shortly regarding no audio\video problems, which they have been trying very hard to fix for everyone.

 

[iamfrank]

Does anyone have any idea what my message may mean?

 

[Paranoid Delusion]

Does anyone have any idea what my message may mean?

Besides it consistantly saying it cannot find TV tuner filter, have not a clue to why, i take it reverting to a earlier build solves this.

Had you updated the driver at any point, that may be stored in the database and pointing to the wrong place for TVServer to look.

Might be worthwhile backing up db and then deleting. make sure you back up your channel config with the export function (only if you have a working version to do this of course).

 

[rtv]

If you take the time to read the forums, it is clear that there are problems on Vista64, and apparently none of the developers are using this operating system. Do you expect the developers to go out and buy a Vista64 computer in order to do testing to help a small number of people? I don't know how many people are making donations, but almost certainly not enough to cover these sort of expenses.

Actually I guess we receive like one 10$ Donation for every 100 post of that sort: "MediaPortal sucks - go fix my problems, I wasted enough money/energy on that project already". You might figure that this wouldn't even be enough to pay for all the terabytes of bandwith that our servers consume. ..

Back to topic: Even if I had a need for a 64-Bit OS because I urgently had to use like 8 Gigabytes of system memory (although this machine would most likely be unix based) I would never think of using such an operating system for multimedia purposes. This might change in the next 2-5 years but currently the main requirements for a successful HTPC environment are still lacking:
- stable drivers for 1. tv cards, 2. sound cards, 3. graphic cards
- stable codecs
- DVB related M$ patches

At least one of our testers successfully uses Vista64 for MediaPortal but of course he had to figure out what is possible and which devices are supported etc.

 

[AmenRa]

If you take the time to read the forums, it is clear that there are problems on Vista64, and apparently none of the developers are using this operating system. Do you expect the developers to go out and buy a Vista64 computer in order to do testing to help a small number of people?

Yes. A serious developer they would already have it. I'm a developer and I have both.

Aside from the manufacture drivers of in which I realize the team has NO control over, there are important but subtle differences when porting to 64 bit. A developer should read up and learn those differences and if they would port this over to 64bit then perhaps it would be more stable with the manufactures 64bit drivers. As a developer, I find that most of the "instability" that occurs between 32bit and 64bit ports is the ignorance in the difference in the variable types and trying to interchange them. The problem is magnified when the ignorance occurs with the manufacture of the drivers.

Back to topic: Even if I had a need for a 64-Bit OS because I urgently had to use like 8 Gigabytes of system memory (although this machine would most likely be unix based) I would never think of using such an operating system for multimedia purposes. This might change in the next 2-5 years but currently the main requirements for a successful HTPC environment are still lacking:
- stable drivers for 1. tv cards, 2. sound cards, 3. graphic cards
- stable codecs
- DVB related M$ patches

At least one of our testers successfully uses Vista64 for MediaPortal but of course he had to figure out what is possible and which devices are supported etc.

64bit is the next coming shift in technology. 32 bit is being phased out. Right now the "Multiple Core" thing is the "wave" but that is going to subside.

Finally, let me point out one more fact. I'm not a MS MCE fan but the fact is that it works and it works well and is pretty stable on the Vista 64 bit environment. I can start the POS up and it runs for months on end. I can't say that for Media Portal. So, take away the emotion and just look at the facts - it's does suggest that something is not being done correctly in Media Portal.