Twinhan, Diseqc & speed issues (1 Viewer)

mhuelsew

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Hi Folks,

Ive been trying again yesterday to get the Twinhan DVB-S (with latest BDA drivers 1.2.3.0) running on MP.

I am running MP0.2 RC2 with the card and a "Monoblock" LNB that supports ASTRA & EUTELSAT. Eutelsat should be DiseqcA, Astra DiseqcB

After (not successfully) trying every possible combination of Diseqc (A/B, B/A, Simple etc) I have finally suceeded to get at least Eutelsat working, but no chance with Astra.

Question: Does Diseqc work at all with MP 0.2 RC2 & BDA-drivers? Is there any workaround or fix planned?

Furthermore the switching time is very long (between 3 and 10 seconds), not really feasible for a "living room PC". And also the picture stutters from time to time, don´t know why. I also here switched between several codecs, VMR7/9 etc. without improvement.

Am I alone with this or is it something currently being worked on?

Thanks so much for your answers & a happy new year!!!!! :)
 

eku60

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Hello mhuelsew,

you're not alone. I'm using 2 quad LNB's and a Spaun multiswitch. I'm not able to get DiseqC working. I'm using BDA-driver 1.2.3.1c because this one is working with MCE 2005 too.
First there may be an issue with the driver. Calling BDAConsole shows the switching frequency to 0 instead of 11700 resulting in a loss of channels (I did a test with version 1.2.3.4; the driver didn't not work with MCE2005, but with MP).
But besides this, I'm not able to tune any Hotbird-Channel, regardless which settings are used in BDAConsole and/or MP-Setup.

If someone made this really working, it would be nice to know how to do this also.

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    1. Upgrade to RC3 + latest SVN.
    2. Run Start.bat
    3. Tune
    4. Post MediaPortal.log

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    eku60

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    Hello dman,

    it took a bit time but here's the scan log from MP SVN 20060521 RC4:
    (I took only parts of it, because it has grown to 2mb space)


    21.05.2006 19:36:20 device:DTV-DVB 878 Virtual BDA Receiver id:mad:device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_109e&dev_036e&subsys_00011822&rev_11#4&10a6a55&0&00f0#{fd0a5af4-b41d-11d2-9c95-00c04f7971e0}\{543e3a8a-8757-4a07-92bc-cf4a33955382}
    21.05.2006 19:36:20 device:DTV-DVBS 878 Digital Capture Filter id:mad:device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_109e&dev_0878&subsys_00011822&rev_11#4&10a6a55&0&01f0#{fd0a5af4-b41d-11d2-9c95-00c04f7971e0}\{603a0ce4-13f6-44a2-8480-9b6a63f1f903}
    21.05.2006 19:36:20 device:Cinergy 1200 DVB-S Capture (BDA) id:mad:device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7146&subsys_1154153b&rev_01#4&10a6a55&0&08f0#{fd0a5af4-b41d-11d2-9c95-00c04f7971e0}\{9b365890-165f-11d0-a195-0020afd156e4}
    21.05.2006 19:36:21 key:confused:YSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\PCI\ven_1131&dev_7146&subsys_1154153b&rev_01\4&10a6a55&0&08f0
    21.05.2006 19:36:21 LoadDefs for device at PCI-Bus 2, Gerät 1
    21.05.2006 19:36:21 key:confused:YSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\PCI\ven_1131&dev_7146&subsys_1154153b&rev_01\4&10a6a55&0&08f0
    21.05.2006 19:36:21 defs loaded for device at PCI-Bus 2, Gerät 1
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 video device moniker :mad:device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7146&subsys_1154153b&rev_01#4&10a6a55&0&08f0#{fd0a5af4-b41d-11d2-9c95-00c04f7971e0}\{9b365890-165f-11d0-a195-0020afd156e4}
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 captureDeviceDeviceName:mad:device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7146&subsys_1154153b&rev_01#4&10a6a55&0&08f0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 FindInstance:mad:device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7146&subsys_1154153b&rev_01#4&10a6a55&0&08f0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 key:confused:YSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\pci\ven_1131&dev_7146&subsys_1154153b&rev_01\4&10a6a55&0&08f0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 serviceName:Cap7146_DVB
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 key:confused:YSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cap7146_DVB\Enum
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 Number of cards:1
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 card#0=PCI#VEN_1131&DEV_7146&SUBSYS_1154153B&REV_01#4&10a6a55&0&08F0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 using card:#0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 Using card#0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 filter networkprovider='Microsoft DVBS Network Provider' check:False
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 filter tunerdevice='Cinergy 1200 DVB-S Tuner (BDA)' check:True
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 CheckDevice:mad:device:pnp:\\?\avstream#tt_cin1200_dvbs#5&f8fe2df&3&0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 FindUniqueFilter:card#0 filter:mad:device:pnp:\\?\avstream#tt_cin1200_dvbs#5&f8fe2df&3&0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 key:confused:YSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\avstream\tt_cin1200_dvbs\5&f8fe2df&3&0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 serviceName:pTDVB
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 key:confused:YSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\PTDVB\Enum
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 filters available:1
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 filter#:0=AVStream#TT_CIN1200_DVBS#5&f8fe2df&3&0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 using filter #:0=AVStream#TT_CIN1200_DVBS#5&f8fe2df&3&0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 use unique filter moniker:mad:device:pnp:\\?\avstream#tt_cin1200_dvbs#5&f8fe2df&3&0#{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{9b365890-165f-11d0-a195-0020afd156e4}
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 Found Cinergy 1200 DVB-S Tuner (BDA)=@device:pnp:\\?\avstream#tt_cin1200_dvbs#5&f8fe2df&3&0#{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{9b365890-165f-11d0-a195-0020afd156e4}
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 filter capture='Cinergy 1200 DVB-S Capture (BDA)' check:True
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 LoadDefinitions done
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 21.05.2006 19:36:22 TVCapture.CreateGraph() Card:1
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 DVBGraphBDA:CreateGraph().
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 key:confused:YSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\PCI\ven_1131&dev_7146&subsys_1154153b&rev_01\4&10a6a55&0&08f0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 LoadDefs for device at PCI-Bus 2, Gerät 1
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 key:confused:YSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\PCI\ven_1131&dev_7146&subsys_1154153b&rev_01\4&10a6a55&0&08f0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 defs loaded for device at PCI-Bus 2, Gerät 1
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 video device moniker :mad:device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7146&subsys_1154153b&rev_01#4&10a6a55&0&08f0#{fd0a5af4-b41d-11d2-9c95-00c04f7971e0}\{9b365890-165f-11d0-a195-0020afd156e4}
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 captureDeviceDeviceName:mad:device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7146&subsys_1154153b&rev_01#4&10a6a55&0&08f0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 FindInstance:mad:device:pnp:\\?\pci#ven_1131&dev_7146&subsys_1154153b&rev_01#4&10a6a55&0&08f0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 key:confused:YSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\pci\ven_1131&dev_7146&subsys_1154153b&rev_01\4&10a6a55&0&08f0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 serviceName:Cap7146_DVB
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 key:confused:YSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cap7146_DVB\Enum
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 Number of cards:1
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 card#0=PCI#VEN_1131&DEV_7146&SUBSYS_1154153B&REV_01#4&10a6a55&0&08F0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 using card:#0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 Using card#0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 filter networkprovider='Microsoft DVBS Network Provider' check:False
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 filter tunerdevice='Cinergy 1200 DVB-S Tuner (BDA)' check:True
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 CheckDevice:mad:device:pnp:\\?\avstream#tt_cin1200_dvbs#5&f8fe2df&3&0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 FindUniqueFilter:card#0 filter:mad:device:pnp:\\?\avstream#tt_cin1200_dvbs#5&f8fe2df&3&0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 key:confused:YSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\avstream\tt_cin1200_dvbs\5&f8fe2df&3&0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 serviceName:pTDVB
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 key:confused:YSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\PTDVB\Enum
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 filters available:1
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 filter#:0=AVStream#TT_CIN1200_DVBS#5&f8fe2df&3&0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 using filter #:0=AVStream#TT_CIN1200_DVBS#5&f8fe2df&3&0
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 use unique filter moniker:mad:device:pnp:\\?\avstream#tt_cin1200_dvbs#5&f8fe2df&3&0#{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{9b365890-165f-11d0-a195-0020afd156e4}
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 Found Cinergy 1200 DVB-S Tuner (BDA)=@device:pnp:\\?\avstream#tt_cin1200_dvbs#5&f8fe2df&3&0#{71985f48-1ca1-11d3-9cc8-00c04f7971e0}\{9b365890-165f-11d0-a195-0020afd156e4}
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 filter capture='Cinergy 1200 DVB-S Capture (BDA)' check:True
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 LoadDefinitions done
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 1 vmr9:ctor()
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 1 vmr9:ctor() DX9Device=null
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 1 vmr9:ctor() _renderFrame=null
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 1 vmr9:ctor() done:False
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 DVBGraphBDA: Adding configured filters...
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 DVBGraphBDA: Adding filter <Microsoft> with moniker <device>
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 DVBGraphBDA: Added filter <Microsoft> with moniker <device>
    21.05.2006 19:36:22 DVBGraphBDA: Adding filter <Cinergy> with moniker <device>
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA: Added filter <Cinergy> with moniker <device>
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA: Adding filter <Cinergy> with moniker <device>
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA: Added filter <Cinergy> with moniker <device>
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA: Adding configured filters...DONE
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA: Adding configured pin connections...
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA: Connecting <Microsoft>:0 with <Cinergy>:0
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA: Found sourcePin: <0> <System>
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA: Found sinkPin: <0> <System>
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA: Pins connected...
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA: Connecting <Cinergy>:0 with <Cinergy>:0
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA: Found sourcePin: <0> <System>
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA: Found sinkPin: <0> <System>
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA: Pins connected...
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA:got 2 tuner statistics
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 Twinhan: check for twinhan driver
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 TVCapture.DeleteGraph() Card:1
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA:DeleteGraph(). ac3=false
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBGraphBDA:DeleteGraph()
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 DVBDemuxer: audio:0 video:0 teletext:0 pmt:0 subtitle:0 program:-1
    21.05.2006 19:36:23 1 vmr9:Dispose

    .....

    21.05.2006 19:36:51 DVBGraphBDA:got 2 tuner statistics
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 Twinhan: check for twinhan driver
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 dvbs-scan: diseqc loops:2
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 dvbs-scan: diseqc:1 file:Tuningparameters\19degreesEast.tpl
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 dvbs-scan: diseqc:2 file:Tuningparameters\13degreesEast.tpl
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 dvbs-scan: Start()
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 dvbs-scan: load transponders for diseqc:1
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 dvbs-scan:Opening Tuningparameters\19degreesEast.tpl
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 dvbs-scan:loaded:73 transponders
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 dvbs-scan:tune transponder:0 freq:11097000 kHz symbolrate:22000 polarisation:1
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 Start graph!
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 DVBGraph: using profile diseqc 1 LNB:22 kHz diseqc:3 lnbKind:0
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 DVBGraph: LNB Settings: freq=11097000 lnbKHz=11700000 lnbFreq=9750 diseqc=1
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 DVBGraphBDA: set LNBSwitch to 11700000 kHz lowOsc=9750 MHz hiOsc=10600 MHz disecq:3
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 DVBGraph: disEqc:level 1 A/A
    21.05.2006 19:36:51 DVBGraph: Set inputrange to:0
    21.05.2006 19:36:52 DVBGraphBDA: signal strength:100 signal quality:99 signal present:True locked:True
    21.05.2006 19:36:52 DVBGraph: wait for tunerlock
    21.05.2006 19:36:53 FilterPids:14
    21.05.2006 19:36:55 dvbs-scan:signal quality:98 signal strength:100 signal present:True
    21.05.2006 19:36:55 DVBGraph: StoreChannels() signal level:100 signal quality:98 locked:True
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 check...True pids:14 0x0,0x10,0x11,0x402,0x409,0x401,0x40B,0x40A,0x408,0x407,0x406,0x405,0x404,0x403,
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 channel:0/11 pid:0x402 ready
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 channel:1/11 pid:0x409 ready
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 channel:2/11 pid:0x401 ready
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 channel:3/11 pid:0x40B ready
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 channel:4/11 pid:0x40A ready
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 channel:5/11 pid:0x408 ready
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 channel:6/11 pid:0x407 ready
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 channel:7/11 pid:0x406 ready
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 channel:8/11 pid:0x405 ready
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 channel:9/11 pid:0x404 ready
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 channel:10/11 pid:0x403 ready
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 DVBGraph: found 11
    21.05.2006 19:36:57 DVBGraph:Found provider:BARNA service:BARÇA TV scrambled:True frequency:11097000 kHz networkid:1 transportid:1042 serviceid:30052 tv:True radio:False audiopid:0x74 videopid:0xA9 teletextpid:0x0 program:30052 pcr pid:0xA9 ac3 pid:0x0 major:0 minor:0 LCN:0 type:1

    .......

    21.05.2006 19:45:54 DVBGraph: map channel PEOPLE+ARTS id:940 to DVBS card:1
    21.05.2006 19:45:54 dvbs-scan:eek:nto next transponder
    21.05.2006 19:45:54 dvbs-scan: load transponders for diseqc:2
    21.05.2006 19:45:54 dvbs-scan:Opening Tuningparameters\13degreesEast.tpl
    21.05.2006 19:45:54 dvbs-scan:loaded:104 transponders
    21.05.2006 19:45:54 dvbs-scan:tune transponder:0 freq:10719000 kHz symbolrate:27500 polarisation:1
    21.05.2006 19:45:54 DVBGraph: using profile diseqc 2 LNB:22 kHz diseqc:3 lnbKind:0
    21.05.2006 19:45:54 DVBGraph: LNB Settings: freq=10719000 lnbKHz=11700000 lnbFreq=9750 diseqc=2
    21.05.2006 19:45:54 DVBGraphBDA: set LNBSwitch to 11700000 kHz lowOsc=9750 MHz hiOsc=10600 MHz disecq:3
    21.05.2006 19:45:54 DVBGraph: disEqc:level 1 A/A
    21.05.2006 19:45:54 DVBGraph: Set inputrange to:0
    21.05.2006 19:45:55 DVBGraphBDA: signal strength:56 signal quality:24 signal present:False locked:False
    21.05.2006 19:45:55 DVBGraph: wait for tunerlock
    21.05.2006 19:45:57 dvbs-scan:signal quality:22 signal strength:60 signal present:False
    21.05.2006 19:45:57 dvbs-scan:tune transponder:1 freq:10723000 kHz symbolrate:29900 polarisation:0
    21.05.2006 19:45:57 DVBGraph: using profile diseqc 2 LNB:22 kHz diseqc:3 lnbKind:0
    21.05.2006 19:45:57 DVBGraph: LNB Settings: freq=10723000 lnbKHz=11700000 lnbFreq=9750 diseqc=2
    21.05.2006 19:45:57 DVBGraphBDA: set LNBSwitch to 11700000 kHz lowOsc=9750 MHz hiOsc=10600 MHz disecq:3
    21.05.2006 19:45:57 DVBGraph: disEqc:level 1 A/A
    21.05.2006 19:45:57 DVBGraph: Set inputrange to:0
    21.05.2006 19:45:58 DVBGraphBDA: signal strength:43 signal quality:17 signal present:False locked:False
    21.05.2006 19:45:58 DVBGraph: wait for tunerlock
    21.05.2006 19:46:00 dvbs-scan:signal quality:17 signal strength:43 signal present:False
    21.05.2006 19:46:00 dvbs-scan:tune transponder:2 freq:10758000 kHz symbolrate:27500 polarisation:1
    21.05.2006 19:46:00 DVBGraph: using profile diseqc 2 LNB:22 kHz diseqc:3 lnbKind:0
    21.05.2006 19:46:00 DVBGraph: LNB Settings: freq=10758000 lnbKHz=11700000 lnbFreq=9750 diseqc=2
    21.05.2006 19:46:00 DVBGraphBDA: set LNBSwitch to 11700000 kHz lowOsc=9750 MHz hiOsc=10600 MHz disecq:3

    .....

    21.05.2006 20:11:25 Restarting MCE Services
    21.05.2006 20:11:27 dbs:close:programDatabaseV4.db3
    21.05.2006 20:11:27 dbs:close:TVDatabaseV21.db3
    21.05.2006 20:11:27 dbs:close:RadioDatabase4.db3
    21.05.2006 20:11:27 dbs:close:musicdatabase5.db3

    That's it.

    Settings were:

    LNB1: Astra 19Deg., DiseqC 1 A/A, 22Khz on, KU-band
    LNB2: Hotbird 13Dg, DiseqC 1 A/B, 22Khz on, KU-band

    Hope it's enough information, otherwise (MP.log is saved for later use).
    DiseqC settings and finding out how the correct settings are, is a nightmare. So I'm not shure about.

    TwinHan BDA driver 1.2.3.8, Terratec Cinergy 1.4.8

    If the switching time between channel could be shortened, the video/audio sync be improved and the conversion to mpeg will work, the major tasks of a HTPC would be fulfilled in an excellent way. MediaPortal is a very good piece of software

    I would very much like to give you more help, but my 08:00 to 20:00 job is killing any attempt to make a serious testing.
    But it would be very nice if i could throw away my external dvb receiver, my video recorder and the printed program guide.

    At least a few points on some discussions here in the forum.

    The variety of MP users is very large. So for the unexperienced users who want only to have a htpc in the living room, the major functions must be easy to setup and have to be stable (MyTv, DVD, EPG, MyRadio, Recording, controlled by a single remote control, no keyboard and mouse, and timer handling).
    Codecs and all that stuff is to complicated for that users, changing merits and so on will end up in a chaos.
    Install, short setup and MP must do it major work.

    The rest is for more experienced users.

    MP is on a good way to manage that, to my mind lik no other htpc software in the moment.

    Regards
     

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