ATi All-in-Wonder X800GT support request (1 Viewer)

[Paul S]

OK, I HAD my 9600 card working. But I recently upgraded to version 0.2.2.0. So I added the AIW 9600 Pro to MP, a channel scan showed no channels. When I opened the graph during the channel scan, I got a graph very similar to the one nbarzgar got!

I found that this:

<connection sourcefilter="capture" sourcepin="4" sinkfilter="audencoder" sinkpin="0"/>

Should have been this:

<connection sourcefilter="capture" sourcepin="3" sinkfilter="audencoder" sinkpin="0"/>

It still did not work, so I registered the MCE encoders again.

Now it works.

 

[Paul S]

One small problem that I didn't notice at first.

Now I don't have any audio! Even when I plug the audo cable back into the sound card.

The graph it makes looks good.

 

[nbarzgar]

Hey there,

I really am glad that you all answer so fast and take pains to help me!

Well, here is the "extract" from my "Card...xml"-file, there are two Definitions for this card and I am not sure yet, which one to change or if to delete one of them completely.

I attach the MP.log-file as well.

I have the cable connected, but it is true that I get the sound anyway, if the respective application can handle the drivers (WDM-NSP formerly) and don't get any sound, if app expects the wave/direct-sound/sound-card-device to carry sound (e.g. VirtualVCR).

I tried to get GraphEdit with a working capture-app to connect to a working graph, but although I tried VDub, DScaler, MMC and PowerDirector (which work, i.e. there is audio and video), the graph was either not found (MMC and PD) or the app caused GraphEdit to crash (VDub,DScaler).

 

[Paul S]

There should be three entries for the T200 drivers. Each one will have a different device ID:

devid="ntativrv01"

You need to know your card's device ID, get it from GraphEdit.

After I got it to scan for channels, I opened MP and tuned to an analog channel. I then started GraphEdit, it took me three or for times before GraphEdit made a graph without crashing.

I see your file is still using the "4" pin. I had to change mine to "3". But you have a different card than me, so your graph will tell you which pin to use

 

[SciDoctor]

Both graphs should work if you have the pci-e verson of the card that has both analog and dvb-t tuners.

The graphs below should work for your set up going on the previous filters that you have shown.

What OS are youusing as if it is w2k you will need to turn off 'exclusive direct x' from the MP config as this causes the TV part of MP not to run without timeshifitng set always on.


Let us know the exact card details and OS details you have, which version of MP and svn.

Give us the listing of ATI devices from the Device Manager of the OS.



<capturecard commercialname="ATI All-in-Wonder X series (Analogue)" capturename="ATI T200 AVStream Analog Capture" devid="ntativrv01">
<capabilities tv="true" radio="true" mpeg2="true" mce="false" sw="false" bda="false"/>
<tv>
<interface cat="mux" video="" audio="" mpeg2="0"/>
<filters>
<filter cat="tvtuner" name="ATI T200 AVStream Analog Tuner" checkdevice="false"/>
<filter cat="tvaudio" name="ATI T200 AVStream Analog TV Audio" checkdevice="false"/>
<filter cat="crossbar" name="ATI T200 AVStream Analog Xbar" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="capture" name="ATI T200 AVStream Analog Capture" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="videncoder" name="ATI Media Center Video Encoder" checkdevice="false"/>
<filter cat="audencoder" name="ATI Media Center Audio Encoder" checkdevice="false"/>
<filter cat="mux" name="ATI Media Center Multiplexer" checkdevice="false"/>
</filters>
<connections>
<connection sourcefilter="tvtuner" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbar" sinkpin="%tvtuner%"/>
<connection sourcefilter="tvtuner" sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="tvaudio" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="tvaudio" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="crossbar" sinkpin="%audiotuner%"/>
<connection sourcefilter="crossbar" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="crossbar" sourcepin="1" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="1"/>
<connection sourcefilter="capture" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="videncoder" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="capture" sourcepin="3" sinkfilter="audencoder" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="videncoder" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="mux" sinkpin="1"/>
<connection sourcefilter="audencoder" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="mux" sinkpin="0"/>
</connections>
</tv>
</capturecard>

<capturecard commercialname="ATI All-in-Wonder X series (DVB-T)" capturename="ATI T200 AVStream BDA Capture" devid="ntativrv01">
<capabilities tv="true" radio="false" mpeg2="true" mce="false" sw="false" bda="true"/>
<tv>
<interface cat="capture" video="2" audio="3" mpeg2="1" sectionsandtables="5"/>
<filters>
<filter cat="networkprovider" name="Microsoft DVBT Network Provider" checkdevice="false"/>
<filter cat="tunerdevice" name="ATI BDA Tuner" checkdevice="true"/>
<filter cat="capture" name="ATI T200 AVStream BDA Capture" checkdevice="true"/>
</filters>
<connections>
<connection sourcefilter="networkprovider" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="tunerdevice" sinkpin="0"/>
<connection sourcefilter="tunerdevice" sourcepin="0" sinkfilter="capture" sinkpin="0"/>
</connections>
</tv>
</capturecard>

 

[SciDoctor]

If you realy want to get this all working in MP please just concentrate on using MP and graphedit, do not use or refer to other apps as they will only confuse the situation.

looking through your MP log shows that the graph build failure occured because of the incorrect pin specified for the filter ('4' should be '3').

Using the above posted correct gpaph should allow MP to build a working graph.

The next stage is to ensure the settings in your sound card are not muted for 'wave' as this is where the AIW sound should be cominng through when using the T200 drivers.

Also what aerial reception are you feeding the AIW, is it analog or digital?

 

[nbarzgar]

Heureka!!!

Now I get audio and video!!!! (Have not tried to capture yet.)
What I did:

1. "Updated" drivers in device manager and rebooted. (Wanted to avoid complete re-install, if possible.)
2. Copied and pasted SciDoctor's graph (analogue version) into the Def.xml-file of MP.
3. De-activated "Use exclusively DirectX..." in MP Config.

Concerning your questions:
a. Device Manager: "ALL-IN-WONDER X800 Series" and "ALL-IN-WONDER X800 Series Secondary" - it is the AGP-Version.

b. It is analogue cable TV (PAL).

c.Card and system details:
MediaPortal Version: 0.2.2.0
MediaPortal Skin: Blue two
Windows Version: Windows XP SP2
CPU Type: Intel Pentium 4, 1.80 GHz
HDD: Seagate, 80 GB

Memory: 512 MB, DDR
Motherboard: Microstar, MSI MS-6513
Motherboard Chipset: Intel i845D
Motherboard Bios: Award Modular v.6.00PG
Video Card: ATi All-in-Wonder X800GT (AGP)
Video Card Driver: Catalyst 6.12 with CP

Sound Card: CMedia CMI8738
Sound Card AC3:
Sound Card Driver: 5.12.1.639
1. TV Card: s.o.
1. TV Card Type: analogue
1. TV Card Driver: s.o.


MPEG2 Video Codec: MPV Decoder
MPEG2 Audio Codec: MPA Decoder
Satelite/CableTV Provider: Cable: KabelBW

HTPC Case: none
Cooling: card-fan, psu: bequiet 350W, motherboard
Power Supply: bequiet 350W
Remote: none
TV: Universal (German brand) 4:3
TV - HTPC Connection: Component -> Scart

Thanks again!!!
I'll report back about capture attempts!

 

[SciDoctor]

As you have a working graph and have audio and video there should be NO problems with capture/recording.

To use the composite/svhs inputs you need to add these into the channel settings for the AIW in the MP configuration, also ensure that they are assigned to card and channels.

From your info I see that your card is AGP which does mean it is analog tv tuner only.

The ATI(cyberlink) mpeg decoders may give you better PQ then the ones you are using play around with these is easy from wthin MP but ensure you use matched pairs and don't mix for best results.