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Disappointing. I bought this PC for use in the kitchen and the TV in there will only work at 1440x900 resolution on HDMI. I can't watch any of my HD channels, live or recorded, the video is all juddery. CPU is only about 15-20% whilst TV is playing, too.
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Hi guys,
I have a Zotac HD-ID11 (Which uses the Next Gen ION2 setup), after a lot of trial and error this plays fine for all content (SD, HD - 720p, 1080p, 1080i).
I'm not sure if the previous ION/Atom machines have got the grunt (I was about to scrap my Zotac at one point because I didn't think it was capable).
One thing that does cause problems is resizing with ffdshow - this (as its not DXVA) is too much for the CPU. This is enabled by default with SAF (I've disabled it).
I spent a fair bit of time tweaking my setup (disabling services, processes, tweaking Antivirus, disabling wireless, disabling IPv6, TCP/UDP checksum offloading, etc) - to get it to work ok.
J.
I have a Zotac HD-ID11 (Which uses the Next Gen ION2 setup), after a lot of trial and error this plays fine for all content (SD, HD - 720p, 1080p, 1080i).
I'm not sure if the previous ION/Atom machines have got the grunt (I was about to scrap my Zotac at one point because I didn't think it was capable).
One thing that does cause problems is resizing with ffdshow - this (as its not DXVA) is too much for the CPU. This is enabled by default with SAF (I've disabled it).
I spent a fair bit of time tweaking my setup (disabling services, processes, tweaking Antivirus, disabling wireless, disabling IPv6, TCP/UDP checksum offloading, etc) - to get it to work ok.
J.
Can you get 1080i working without FFdshow?
Hi there,
What do you mean "without" ffdshow?
I have done some quick testing for you, it seems to work with with PDVD10 and ffdshow audio.
If I switch to use CoreAVC with ffdshow audio I have issues (weird how CoreAVC is designed for Nvidia)??
If I switch to use MS DTV for both audio and video it seems to work fine.
The IONs seem so boarderline, that anything can affect them. I don't think I'll get another!
I am now using RTSP instead of UNC (UNC gave me stuttering) - even with low disk reads/writes (using perfmon to monitor) and with SMB2 disabled too.
On HD (1080i) the CPU is running about 50% (even though its using dxva) - just goes to show MePo/OS needs a bit (no wonder why you can't do HD without DXVA/CUDA!)
J.
What do you mean "without" ffdshow?
I have done some quick testing for you, it seems to work with with PDVD10 and ffdshow audio.
If I switch to use CoreAVC with ffdshow audio I have issues (weird how CoreAVC is designed for Nvidia)??
If I switch to use MS DTV for both audio and video it seems to work fine.
The IONs seem so boarderline, that anything can affect them. I don't think I'll get another!
I am now using RTSP instead of UNC (UNC gave me stuttering) - even with low disk reads/writes (using perfmon to monitor) and with SMB2 disabled too.
On HD (1080i) the CPU is running about 50% (even though its using dxva) - just goes to show MePo/OS needs a bit (no wonder why you can't do HD without DXVA/CUDA!)
J.
I just meant without using ffdshow as a decoder!
It's a shame I've got Coreavc, but, if it works with MSDTV then that should be ok.
Can you tell me exactly what you have 'tweek'd' to help?
Hi All, I've been having similar issues with my Aspire R3700 (dual core atom @1.8Ghz, Ion2), everything stutters from time to time then sometimes it goes really bad for a while. It's just client fed from an AMD desktop which geared up to be silent not powerful (no fans big heatsinks, elastic cradled drives).
Anyway big thanks to those who suggested disabling the unused WIFI device, it's made it so much better! Watching a fast moving film with it switched on causes lots of stuttering on panning shots (sometimes), while same film with it off didn't miss a beat, think it dropped 5 frames in 50,000 when I left the graph running.
Still need to try this with 1080i content, I'm considering getting another for the bedroom, but I need to be sure it's going to play 1080i when we finally get freeview HD here.
Anyone else have much joy with ION2 and 1080i,
Craig
P.s. Running Win7 throughout and using the standard windows codecs for all, seems fine.
Anyway big thanks to those who suggested disabling the unused WIFI device, it's made it so much better! Watching a fast moving film with it switched on causes lots of stuttering on panning shots (sometimes), while same film with it off didn't miss a beat, think it dropped 5 frames in 50,000 when I left the graph running.
Still need to try this with 1080i content, I'm considering getting another for the bedroom, but I need to be sure it's going to play 1080i when we finally get freeview HD here.
Anyone else have much joy with ION2 and 1080i,
Craig
P.s. Running Win7 throughout and using the standard windows codecs for all, seems fine.
Hi all,
Saw some comments earlier about ION2 being more capable than the original ION, for media playback they should be about as good as each other (in fact the ION 1 will likely handle flash video better) I can't remember the specifics but the ION2 revision had something to do with changing the architecture to avoid other chip manufacturers getting upset rather than providing a significant performance boost.
I've got a revo 3610 running media portal as a single site, so both the tv server and the mepo client on the same machine. Had no issues with choppy TV (but we don't get HD tv here yet) and had no issues with 720p / 1080i media playback either, plus can watch one and record another channel at the same time without issue.
I run the Shark 007 codec pack rather than SAF as when I tried SAF6 I found TV playback was terrible (although I didn't play around for long before going back to Shark so may just have missed the one setting I needed). My Revo is able to run MePo, iTunes and a couple of other programs (Inc MS security essentials) quite happily at the same time. all I use it for is HTPC duties so it's a clean install of win 7 with just these programs on top.
Saw some comments earlier about ION2 being more capable than the original ION, for media playback they should be about as good as each other (in fact the ION 1 will likely handle flash video better) I can't remember the specifics but the ION2 revision had something to do with changing the architecture to avoid other chip manufacturers getting upset rather than providing a significant performance boost.
I've got a revo 3610 running media portal as a single site, so both the tv server and the mepo client on the same machine. Had no issues with choppy TV (but we don't get HD tv here yet) and had no issues with 720p / 1080i media playback either, plus can watch one and record another channel at the same time without issue.
I run the Shark 007 codec pack rather than SAF as when I tried SAF6 I found TV playback was terrible (although I didn't play around for long before going back to Shark so may just have missed the one setting I needed). My Revo is able to run MePo, iTunes and a couple of other programs (Inc MS security essentials) quite happily at the same time. all I use it for is HTPC duties so it's a clean install of win 7 with just these programs on top.
Hi there,
You will need to get a USB CDROM/DVD drive and a W7 CD, or get W7 booting off a USB HDD/Stick.
J.
ps - Worst case you take the HDD out, install to that and another PC, then sysprep it and put it back in.
You will need to get a USB CDROM/DVD drive and a W7 CD, or get W7 booting off a USB HDD/Stick.
J.
ps - Worst case you take the HDD out, install to that and another PC, then sysprep it and put it back in.
I used this utility for my netbook and it works great: How to install Windows from USB- WinSetupFromUSB with GUI - MSFN Forum