[confirm] Channels not flagged as FTA won't play even if they are not scrambled (1 Viewer)

[miroslav22]

I think we need an additional authoritative way to detect encryption status...

i don't think it's a mediaportal issue. it's broadcaster's fault, other softwares detect them as encrypted as well, it's more a matter of handling something that seems encrypted but isn't

The problem is some channels are only encrypted for certain parts of the day/week so I guess they have to be marked as scrambled in the stream.

We could analyse the stream on every tune but it's a bit of a catch 22 situation because MP uses the stored FTA flag before it tunes to decide which tuner to use!

 

[mm1352000]

The problem is some channels are only encrypted for certain parts of the day/week so I guess they have to be marked as scrambled in the stream.

This is part of the problem I think - providers don't label these channels consistently. In Bracco's case though, some of his providers appear to be just blatantly ignoring DVB guidelines, whether they're 24 hour encrypted or not.

We could analyse the stream on every tune but it's a bit of a catch 22 situation because MP uses the stored FTA flag before it tunes to decide which tuner to use!

Exactly.
There is an encrypted flag in the EIT so maybe that could be used in some cases. My opinion is that the best we can do is create a third category for "sometimes encrypted" and when a user tunes to one of those channels then we use a tuner with decryption capability if possible, otherwise use what is available.

mm
PS: Bracco, do you have Transedit or DVBViewer? I was using Transedit to analyse the stream dump you provided and it seemed to be correct. I guess it is analysing encryption at the PID level because it could tell when one of the channels had encrypted audio but the video was FTA.

 

[Bracco]

no i don't but will download and try

i tried quickly with transedit and it seems to correctly distinguish between real and "fake" encrypted channels. also, it finds as FTA some channels that are usually encrypted but not atm