FloppyDTV-C card problems (1 Viewer)

[limpwhizkid]

is it gonna hurt you to try with the original card with 1 tuner and disable the second and try mediaportal again

Nah, but I need "kid-free" livingroom to be able to open up the "magic box".

I did this and I found out that there is more to this problem. First I tried removing the SmartWI like you wished for (!) and this solved the problem, so you are correct, the SmartWI is involved (running firmware 2.43 Beta 8 T0 by the by). I then tried moving the CAM from the new TV card to the old (the one not working with the SmartWI) and connected the SmartWI and now it worked fine. So it seems the CAM is involved. I have two Conax Cams, both version 4.00e, but one is HW version 1.0 and the other 1.1. The one that worked with the old tv card and SmartWI was 1.1. So in conclusion I then took the 1.0 Conax CAM and connected to the newer floppydtv and badabing, now that works aswell with the SmartWI. Suddenly I had two working tv cards again!

To sum it up, the new tv card with the old CAM and SmartWI = OK, the old tv card with the new CAM and SmartWI = OK. Any combination of the above mentioned with DVBviewer = OK. So in the end, the problem is with

Mediaportal and not anything else, but at least I found a solution for me that gives me two working tuners again.

Just as a final note, the old combination of CAMs and SmartWI worked a few weeks back, it broke sometime in the last month or so. It just took a little while till I understood what the problem was.

Thanks for your help (the last post about the CAM was very helpful to put me on the track!, thanks!).

Glad it help it.. BTW what is SmartWI??

Thanks

With this wireless Multi Room Solution you can share one original smart card between all your receivers
The wireless master box will connect to the digital receivers by the wireless slave which will be inset in the receiver’s cam (embedded cam)
It will then work as the original card was inset direct in your receiver.
This solution is useful when you have more than 1 receiver in your home and will save you for paying additional extra monthly fee for extra card.

SmartWi Multi Room Solution come standard with 1 Wireless SmartWi master box, 3 Wireless SmartWi client card and a power adaptor for SmartWi master as a set.

The Wireless SmartWi master box are using a fast microprossesor to control both the card reader and the wireless part.

Follow ISO 7816 standard
Host device auto detect clock speed.
USB2 connection for firmware update & supply power
Bild in antenna for wireless comunnication with slave card.
Wireless range. Min.15 meter Master <> client unit (indoor range).
Auto re-start after power failure.
Stand alone operation, manage the smart card itself.
Very fast master <-> slave communication (>30 Kbytes/s)
LED indicator for operation

The wireless SmartWi client card are using a small microprocessor to handle both communication with the receiver and the wireless part.


Follow ISO 7816 standard
Auto detect clock speed from the receiver.
Firmware update true SmartWi master box.
Build in PCB antenna for wireless communication with master box.
Wireless range min.15 meter from Master unit (indoor range).
LED indicator for operation
Powered from receiver’s cam / card reader.

 

[ronzelver]

You could try some different SW versions for the SmartWI aswell, seems to be big speed differences between the ones. Latest Beta is very quick, latest release is very slow ..

I do have the latest release version from smartwi in use.. 2.41 ..

Will have a look also for the beta one.. and try that 2!
update:
(forget it ... from website smartwi -> T=1 No beta at the moment )

But i think I found the problem .. it is also in the cam ..

3.08 is far off (my cams).. if version 3.14 is available..
as far as I have researched 3.12 introduces new bugs .. with reported sound problems on discovery channel and a few more.. 3.14 seems the way to go .. so cant hurt to update them ..

But you cant update the cam without a laptop with pmcia... so now installing an old laptop with pmcia to update my cams and have another go at it

Hope it fixes the problem ..

I have a FloppyDTV-C, an Alphacrypt CAM 3.14 and a SmartWi v8 2.41 T1, and I see that after a while (maybe it is S3 sleep/wake-up related) at the TVServer (Manual timeshift/record) that all (non-FTA) channels are scrambled?!? Maybe this has also to do with the Alphacrypt/SmartWi combination? I can resolve this by removing the Alphacrypt CAM and inserting it back again, then all channels are decoded correctly again.

Next to this I cannot view any channels in the preview window (see TVServer errorlog)?

2008-03-24 08:42:53.686115 [1]: Exception   :System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException (0x80040154): Het ophalen van de COM-classfactory voor het onderdeel met CLSID {B9559486-E1BB-45D3-A2A2-9A7AFE49B23F} is mislukt vanwege de volgende fout: 80040154.
   bij SetupTv.Sections.Player.Play(String fileName, Form form)
   bij SetupTv.Sections.FormPreview.FormPreview_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
2008-03-24 08:42:53.687091 [1]: Exception   :Het ophalen van de COM-classfactory voor het onderdeel met CLSID {B9559486-E1BB-45D3-A2A2-9A7AFE49B23F} is mislukt vanwege de volgende fout: 80040154.
2008-03-24 08:42:53.687091 [1]:   site      :Boolean Play(System.String, System.Windows.Forms.Form)
2008-03-24 08:42:53.688068 [1]:   source    :SetupTv
2008-03-24 08:42:53.688068 [1]:   stacktrace:   bij SetupTv.Sections.Player.Play(String fileName, Form form)
   bij SetupTv.Sections.FormPreview.FormPreview_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

 

[limpwhizkid]

You could try some different SW versions for the SmartWI aswell, seems to be big speed differences between the ones. Latest Beta is very quick, latest release is very slow ..

I do have the latest release version from smartwi in use.. 2.41 ..

Will have a look also for the beta one.. and try that 2!
update:
(forget it ... from website smartwi -> T=1 No beta at the moment )

But i think I found the problem .. it is also in the cam ..

3.08 is far off (my cams).. if version 3.14 is available..
as far as I have researched 3.12 introduces new bugs .. with reported sound problems on discovery channel and a few more.. 3.14 seems the way to go .. so cant hurt to update them ..

But you cant update the cam without a laptop with pmcia... so now installing an old laptop with pmcia to update my cams and have another go at it

Hope it fixes the problem ..

I have a FloppyDTV-C, an Alphacrypt CAM 3.14 and a SmartWi v8 2.41 T1, and I see that after a while (maybe it is S3 sleep/wake-up related) at the TVServer (Manual timeshift/record) that all (non-FTA) channels are scrambled?!? Maybe this has also to do with the Alphacrypt/SmartWi combination? I can resolve this by removing the Alphacrypt CAM and inserting it back again, then all channels are decoded correctly again.

Next to this I cannot view any channels in the preview window (see TVServer errorlog)?

2008-03-24 08:42:53.686115 [1]: Exception   :System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException (0x80040154): Het ophalen van de COM-classfactory voor het onderdeel met CLSID {B9559486-E1BB-45D3-A2A2-9A7AFE49B23F} is mislukt vanwege de volgende fout: 80040154.
   bij SetupTv.Sections.Player.Play(String fileName, Form form)
   bij SetupTv.Sections.FormPreview.FormPreview_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
2008-03-24 08:42:53.687091 [1]: Exception   :Het ophalen van de COM-classfactory voor het onderdeel met CLSID {B9559486-E1BB-45D3-A2A2-9A7AFE49B23F} is mislukt vanwege de volgende fout: 80040154.
2008-03-24 08:42:53.687091 [1]:   site      :Boolean Play(System.String, System.Windows.Forms.Form)
2008-03-24 08:42:53.688068 [1]:   source    :SetupTv
2008-03-24 08:42:53.688068 [1]:   stacktrace:   bij SetupTv.Sections.Player.Play(String fileName, Form form)
   bij SetupTv.Sections.FormPreview.FormPreview_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   bij System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

Can you please also try with a real smartcard and see if your problems disappear ? That would help a lot!

 

[ronzelver]

You could try some different SW versions for the SmartWI aswell, seems to be big speed differences between the ones. Latest Beta is very quick, latest release is very slow ..

I do have the latest release version from smartwi in use.. 2.41 ..

Will have a look also for the beta one.. and try that 2!
update:
(forget it ... from website smartwi -> T=1 No beta at the moment )

But i think I found the problem .. it is also in the cam ..

3.08 is far off (my cams).. if version 3.14 is available..
as far as I have researched 3.12 introduces new bugs .. with reported sound problems on discovery channel and a few more.. 3.14 seems the way to go .. so cant hurt to update them ..

But you cant update the cam without a laptop with pmcia... so now installing an old laptop with pmcia to update my cams and have another go at it

Hope it fixes the problem ..

I have a FloppyDTV-C, an Alphacrypt CAM 3.14 and a SmartWi v8 2.41 T1, and I see that after a while (maybe it is S3 sleep/wake-up related) at the TVServer (Manual timeshift/record) that all (non-FTA) channels are scrambled?!? Maybe this has also to do with the Alphacrypt/SmartWi combination? I can resolve this by removing the Alphacrypt CAM and inserting it back again, then all channels are decoded correctly again.

Next to this I cannot view any channels in the preview window (see TVServer errorlog)?

Can you please also try with a real smartcard and see if your problems disappear ? That would help a lot!

I tried with a real smartcard and I still had to remove my CAM once again to get my channels unscrambled. For my preview problem I reverted back to SVN build of 03/14/08 and now it seems to work even with SmartWi (I had multiple S3 sleep/wakeups and my DVB tuner is still showing TV channels ). Even recording multiple streams from the same transportstream works
I still have to find out why my DVD-folders and MCE dvr-ms recordings are not playing , but my girlfriend is getting impatient/desperate because I screwed up a few high priority recordings ('Desperate Housewives') with my VMC setup (the main reason why I have started paying around with MP/TV-Server)

 

[limpwhizkid]

women are always impatient.. ..my smarwi works again after I upgraded my cams from 3.08 to 3.14 (alphacrypt classic cams).. !
MCE dvr-ms recordings are not supported (yet).. there is a topic about it somewhere on this forum ..
good luck with the girlfriend.. I always have a multiple operating systems on my server . so I can fiddle around.. and when needed boot a somewhat OK working version for the girlie..

 

[ronzelver]

After all, it seems that the original smartcard (@Home/Ziggo) performs pretty stable. I have re-inserted my SmartWi card and immediately the whole thing around "channel is scrambled" starts again. I really would like to use the SmartWi solution, so I can have all channels on my MP as well...
Is there any progress somewhere?
BTW, I have a FloppyDTV-C, an Alphacrypt CAM 3.14 and a SmartWi v8 2.41 T1

Thanks in advance
Ron

 

[limpwhizkid]

After all, it seems that the original smartcard (@Home/Ziggo) performs pretty stable. I have re-inserted my SmartWi card and immediately the whole thing around "channel is scrambled" starts again. I really would like to use the SmartWi solution, so I can have all channels on my MP as well...
Is there any progress somewhere?
BTW, I have a FloppyDTV-C, an Alphacrypt CAM 3.14 and a SmartWi v8 2.41 T1

Thanks in advance
Ron

Hello Ron,

I have no problems whatsoever with it, but I must admit, my base smartwi is standing next to the computer with the 2 clients.. so the distance is only about 1 meter max .. maybe you can try that too ?

 

[ronzelver]

After all, it seems that the original smartcard (@Home/Ziggo) performs pretty stable. I have re-inserted my SmartWi card and immediately the whole thing around "channel is scrambled" starts again. I really would like to use the SmartWi solution, so I can have all channels on my MP as well...
Is there any progress somewhere?
BTW, I have a FloppyDTV-C, an Alphacrypt CAM 3.14 and a SmartWi v8 2.41 T1

Thanks in advance
Ron

Hello Ron,

I have no problems whatsoever with it, but I must admit, my base smartwi is standing next to the computer with the 2 clients.. so the distance is only about 1 meter max .. maybe you can try that too ?

I also discovered that there is a distance/signal quality issue with SmartWi, I replaced my SmartWi base station away from my other PC/Monitor and now I don't have any lockups on my Samsung DCB-H360 decoder. I haven't noticed any improvements on MP system whatsoever. I still have a suspicion towards the Alphacrypt icw SmartWi as well. Anyway, I will try to put my SmartWi base next to my HTPC and see if this helps.

Grtz Ron


TV-Server Version: Latest SVN
MediaPortal Version: RC2 + latest SVN
MediaPortal Skin: Monochrome/X-Face
Windows Version: Vista Premium NL
CPU Type: AMD64 3200+
HDD: Samsung SP2504C / HD501LJ
Memory: 2Gb DDR
Motherboard: Asus A8N-VM CSM
Video Card: GeForce 8500GT
Video Card Driver:
Sound Card: Onboard
Sound Card AC3: Optical out
Sound Card Driver:
1. TV Card: FloppyDTV-C
1. TV Card Type: DVB-C
1. TV Card Driver: Integrated Setup 4.5N
2. TV Card: Hauppauge PVR500MCE
2. TV Card Type: Analog
2. TV Card Driver:
3. TV Card:
3. TV Card Type:
3. TV Card Driver:
4. TV Card:
4. TV Card Type:
4. TV Card Driver:
MPEG2 Video Codec: NVidia Decoder
MPEG2 Audio Codec:
h.264 Video Codec:
Satelite/CableTV Provider: @Home
HTPC Case: Silverstone LC16M
Cooling:
Power Supply:
Remote: Microsoft MCE Remote
TV: Hitachi 42PD7200A
TV - HTPC Connection: DVI

 

[corvy]

I just found out that all my problems was related to the CAM. Just changed from the standard Conax 4.00e to the Technisat Conax CAM and all is now working. The SmartWI with the newest beta firmware is a great combination.

My Conax CAMs is destined for eBay very soon