For The Record - The rule-based scheduling suite (9 Viewers)

[dvdfreak]

I've played a bit with the new search feature... it's useful, but I still miss a global list of programs without repetitions.

Hmmm, indeed. But then it would not make sense to show start/end times, right, just a flat list of all programs shown, but title only (no episode information either)?

But what about channels? Still show shows per channel, I think that might make sense, no?

And then the context menu could show the"Record Daily/Weekly/Any Time" shortcuts into the edit-schedule panel, but obviously no simple "Record".

The best would be a "What's new on TV?" highlight... "new" compared to last tv guide import or (probably better) compared to last time the user reset the highlight.

That could indeed be a possible second step then.

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After the 3 minutes everything works fine. If I uninstall TvS everything work fine right after a boot. I see this with 1.0.7 and 1.0.8 with both my XP installs. The Event Viewer gives me no indication of what the problem is.

No idea.

Beats me too You seem to be the only one with this problem, could it be driver-related? You did a clean install, but on the same machine with the same drivers I guess. I test both on XP SP2 and Vista myself, and most users use XP I think, and noone else sees these same symptoms as far as I know... Have not heard back from Shaftstick though, he may be the only one with something similar...

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Experimenting with TvScheduler - a much overdue plugin for MEdiaPortal, that feature is on my *must* have list.

A question - does it perfrom a two way schedule sync? I notice that records scheduled in TVScheduler appear fairly rapidly but the reverse does not seem to happen at all.

That is correct, there is only one way syncing. From TV Scheduler into MediaPortal.

So the missing piece of the puzzle is a way for you to edit TV Scheduler schedules from within MediaPortal I'm more than busy enough at the moment, and unfortunately noone has stepped forward so far to actually start on such a GUI plugin for MediaPortal.

When MediaPortal II alpha is out I may start looking at this myself. In the mean time perhaps someone will start on a MediaPortal 1 plugin...

 

[Midget]

I've played a bit with the new search feature... it's useful, but I still miss a global list of programs without repetitions.

Hmmm, indeed. But then it would not make sense to show start/end times, right, just a flat list of all programs shown, but title only (no episode information either)?

Yes, this is the idea.

But what about channels? Still show shows per channel, I think that might make sense, no?

Maybe it would be useful to have a global flat list with 2 optional filters: channel and genre.

And then the context menu could show the"Record Daily/Weekly/Any Time" shortcuts into the edit-schedule panel, but obviously no simple "Record".

Yes, it make sense.

 

[visteon]

dvdfreak

You may remember I said I had a problem with the 2 min plus delay before being able to access my network. There was no delay before I started using TvS. This does not necessarily mean TvS is causing it of course. My PC is used for all kinds of other things besides MP.

The delay is a pain but not a show stopper. I would love to be able to see what process are waiting / holding up the network access. Anyone know what to look for.

 

[dvdfreak]

dvdfreak

You may remember I said I had a problem with the 2 min plus delay before being able to access my network. There was no delay before I started using TvS. This does not necessarily mean TvS is causing it of course. My PC is used for all kinds of other things besides MP.

The delay is a pain but not a show stopper. I would love to be able to see what process are waiting / holding up the network access. Anyone know what to look for.

Well, TvScheduler is starting four WCF services when it starts up. And all four of these services have two endpoints, one net.tcp:// and one https://.

Perhaps I need to add another dependency to my windows service, to allow something else in the system to start up? I currently set up dependencies on SQL or MySQL and NetMan.

 

[visteon]

dvdfreak

You may remember I said I had a problem with the 2 min plus delay before being able to access my network. There was no delay before I started using TvS. This does not necessarily mean TvS is causing it of course. My PC is used for all kinds of other things besides MP.

The delay is a pain but not a show stopper. I would love to be able to see what process are waiting / holding up the network access. Anyone know what to look for.

Well, TvScheduler is starting four WCF services when it starts up. And all four of these services have two endpoints, one net.tcp:// and one https://.

Perhaps I need to add another dependency to my windows service, to allow something else in the system to start up? I currently set up dependencies on SQL or MySQL and NetMan.

Do you mean by this that if your service does not see it's dependent processes start the network will get hung until a timeout ?

 

[dvdfreak]

Do you mean by this that if your service does not see it's dependent processes start the network will get hung until a timeout ?

No, it means my service will not start until these two other services have started first.

I do notice netman is set up as "Manual". Hmmm... Perhaps I should not add this dependency at all.

Can you try to remove the dependency on your system, to see if that helps? Use regedit.exe to go to:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\TvScheduler

And then edit the DependOnService multi-string key. I just noticed I also set up a dependency on EventLog.

 

[StaticMan]

Just looking through my event viewer again on another startup:
11:09:45 - msSQL finishes up
11:10:22 - TV Service startes successfully
11:11:45 - Windows Security Center Service starts successfully
11:11:47 - TvS starts successfully

11:11:45 is when I see the secuirty system tray icon flash briefly.
Maybe TvS should wait for that service as well?

 

[dvdfreak]

Just looking through my event viewer again on another startup:
11:09:45 - msSQL finishes up
11:10:22 - TV Service startes successfully
11:11:45 - Windows Security Center Service starts successfully
11:11:47 - TvS starts successfully

11:11:45 is when I see the secuirty system tray icon flash briefly.
Maybe TvS should wait for that service as well?

Well, it looks like it already starts after that service. And it also looks like it is the "Windows Security Center" service that takes 1m30s to start. Perhaps this service is not started if you don't use TvScheduler, and that explains why you see the difference...

Perhaps it is indeed worth a try to add "wscsvc" to your DependOnService key using regedit, and see if that has any effect.

 

[visteon]

I have not updated to your latest version I am on 1.0.7.0
I thought you may be interested regarding this startup delay.
I have an event showing

Source : Service control manager : 11:02:09 : The TvSceduler service hung on starting

From log:

30/11/2007 10:59:58 [Information][TvScheduler]: Starting service.
30/11/2007 11:00:01 [Information][TvScheduler]: Starting WCF service hosts.
30/11/2007 11:02:13 [Information][TvScheduler]: Starting XMLTV import thread.
30/11/2007 11:02:13 [Information][XMLTV Import]: Thread started.
30/11/2007 11:02:13 [Information][TvScheduler]: Service started.
30/11/2007 11:02:14 [Information][XMLTV Import]: Deleting old guide programs.

Would you like me to do any checks for you ?

 

[dvdfreak]

30/11/2007 10:59:58 [Information][TvScheduler]: Starting service.
30/11/2007 11:00:01 [Information][TvScheduler]: Starting WCF service hosts.
30/11/2007 11:02:13 [Information][TvScheduler]: Starting XMLTV import thread.
30/11/2007 11:02:13 [Information][XMLTV Import]: Thread started.
30/11/2007 11:02:13 [Information][TvScheduler]: Service started.
30/11/2007 11:02:14 [Information][XMLTV Import]: Deleting old guide programs.

Would you like me to do any checks for you ?

Do you see any other services being started in the system's event log at 11:00:01? For some reason it takes two minutes to actually start the WCF services, there must be a reason why...

Perhaps I do indeed need to set more dependencies on my service, but then I still have to find out which