Hauppauge HD-PVR & Colossus Support (4 Viewers)

[sjevtic]

I am still having trouble getting MP to work in win7 with Colossus single seat. I have two issues and I wonder if the attached log might help in solving them? 1. I am using HDMI from the Colossus to the TV and get a great picture but no sound. 2. I am not sure how to get the Hauppauge ir remote working. What do I need to configure in order to pass on the commands to the blaster that came with Colossus.

Thanks for any help you can offer. Log attached. Dave

Dave,

I have no experience with the HDMI output on the Colossus--I'm not sure exactly what it puts out, and under what conditions it does that. As far as the no audio problem goes though, do you have the audioSource values set correctly for each channel in the TV-Server database?

Sasha

 

[dabineri]

Thank you Sasha. What should the audioSource settings be? Dave

 

[sjevtic]

Thank you Sasha. What should the audioSource settings be? Dave

Dave,

It depends on what input you are using. Please take a look at this. Here's a hint: try 9 for TOSLink.

Sasha

 

[dabineri]

Sasha, Where are these settings specified, I do not find them in the TV server setup of the MP configs? Thanks, Dave

 

[sjevtic]

Sasha, Where are these settings specified, I do not find them in the TV server setup of the MP configs? Thanks, Dave

Dave,

They are in there on a per-channel basis: TV Server Configuration -> TV Channels -> Edit Channel -> Edit Tuningdetails.

For example:

On the Colossus, by the way, this example is for component video and TOSLink audio.

One of the points that my earlier link was supposed to convey is that there is no easy way to change the audioSource for a lot of channels simultaneously from TV Server Configuration.

Sasha

 

[Pascal Cimon]

So I'm still restling with audio Inputs. I tried channel combination with no luck. Then I tried the following mapping change in the crossbar config xml files C:\ProgramData\Team MediaPortal\MediaPortal TV Server\AnalogCard as suggested by Sacha in the:

For the Colossus cards:

	<videoPin type="10" index="1" related="9" />

For the HD-PVR:

	<videoPin type="10" index="0" related="3" />

By doing this, when you choose videoSource = 10 (component) and audioSource = 0 (automatic), you will end up using the TOSLink audio input because that's the related audio source for component input.

And

	<audioPin type="9" index="3" />

Sasha

Has anyone done this successfuly? I do the changes, restart the TV server and try to go to a channel i Mp but as soon as I do that the crossbar files get overwritten somehow and revert to their original values. The time stamp on the files confirm they were modified. Is there something else that needs to be done to make these changes active and permanent?

 

[sjevtic]

So I'm still restling with audio Inputs. I tried channel combination with no luck. Then I tried the following mapping change in the crossbar config xml files C:\ProgramData\Team MediaPortal\MediaPortal TV Server\AnalogCard as suggested by Sacha

Pascal,

I'm not sure what effect changing the XML files would have, and it wasn't my intention to have you change these. The proper way to achieve the result you are looking for is to set the videoSource and audioSource values the TV Server database, either with the TV Server Configuration program as I explained above in my immediately previous post in this thread, or by modifying the database directly such as by using sqlcmd or Access. While the settings that you exported look reasonable with seperate tuningdetails for the instances of the channel on each card type, and your use case appears to be supported by TV Server, I've never tried a heterogeneous mix of tuners, and don't have the hardware on hand to be able to test this. Maybe one of the TV Server experts (@mm1352000?) can comment on this in more depth.

Sasha

 

[Pascal Cimon]

Hi Sasha,

Pascal,

I'm not sure what effect changing the XML files would have

Apparently none they get overwritten.

The proper way to achieve the result you are looking for is to set the videoSource and audioSource values the TV Server database, either with the TV Server Configuration program as I explained above in my immediately previous post in this thread, or by modifying the database directly such as by using sqlcmd or Access.

I don't see a way to change the input mapping or related field in the GUI. I can assign them but not change the "related" or add SPDIF #2 to the HD PVR. So that only leave the Database. Could you indicate what sql table I need to modify to achieve this?

Thanks,

Pascal

 

[sjevtic]

Hi Pascal,

Hi Sasha,

Pascal,

I'm not sure what effect changing the XML files would have

Apparently none they get overwritten.

I have never really looked into what those XML files are used for, but I do know that they are written out at least when you change particular card-related aspects of the TV Server configuration (e.g., recording quality preference). I never bothered to understand if they are used to influence the behavior of TV Server in any way, or if they are just intended to provide you with an easily readable summary of the capture configuration.

The proper way to achieve the result you are looking for is to set the videoSource and audioSource values the TV Server database, either with the TV Server Configuration program as I explained above in my immediately previous post in this thread, or by modifying the database directly such as by using sqlcmd or Access.

I don't see a way to change the input mapping or related field in the GUI. I can assign them but not change the "related" or add SPDIF #2 to the HD PVR. So that only leave the Database. Could you indicate what sql table I need to modify to achieve this?

Thanks,

Pascal

You can do this in the GUI. It's just slow work because you have to open a dialog for each channel, and then open a subsequent dialog for each tuning detail. I put a screenshot of the dialog where you can edit the video source and audio source for a particular tuning detail a few posts up.

The name of the database table where this is kept is called TuningDetail. The fields in question are videoSource and audioSource. If you do directly modify the database though, be careful as you query, since you need to obviously set the values differently based on the card that a particular tuning detail is associated with (think: ChannelMap table).

By the way, one thing I have found very useful for poking around inside the TV Server database is Microsoft Access, which can function as a reasonable client for just about any data source for which you have an ODBC driver. If you're like me and not a database professional, the query editing tools can be a big help. Running a query from sqlcmd might be convenient once you have perfectly formulated your query, but when you're trying to get a grasp on the database schema and understanding what your queries are doing, the GUI is particularly handy. Here's an example of what using Access to work on your database looks like:

Obviously, in addition to designing queries that update your data, you can do all the standard sorts of things you'd expect to be able to do--manually edit fields, use search and replace, etc.

Sasha

 

[Pascal Cimon]

Hi Sasha,

You can do this in the GUI. It's just slow work because you have to open a dialog for each channel, and then open a subsequent dialog for each tuning detail. I put a screenshot of the dialog where you can edit the video source and audio source for a particular tuning detail a few posts up.

I agree that you can change what input you use from the GUI as you show in your post but that part is already setup properly as you can see from my export file (https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/attachments/export-xml.122427). What I was looking for is a way to define SPDIF Ln #2 in the HD PVR to point to toslink or change the related field so that "Automatic" points to toslink instead of "line in" on both cards.

Now that you told me what table to look for I can see that the fields are for the same info as the GUI and will not allow me to do what I described above.

Until I can figure this out I've switched from toslink to the RCA connectors of "line in". Now I only need one tunning detail which uses automatic for sound. It means I've lost surround sound, which really sucks, but at least the cards work perfectly this way. I hope we can find a way to fix this so that I can get surround sound back...