[WiP] madVR support in MP1 (10 Viewers)

[cabala]

I am very suprised to hear that, no question that the RX 470/480 are much more powerfull, but the RX 460 is a quantum leap more powerfull than my old AMD HD 6670 and that was good for 3D, HD TV and BD movies using Madvr without green screens etc. My primary reason for buying the RX 460 was to get HEVC HW accel. fot German DVBT2 HD TV (not supported on the HD 6670) as the CPU load without it can peak on my HTPC up to 50% which I felt was bordering on too high, with the RX 460 it does not get much above 10% so that is great but the green screens and long stop times on other content are a major down side.
Are you seeing long stop times (20 secs or more) after playing vids in TVS and OLV or recorded TV programs with the RX 470/80?

DXVA2 on AMD with Crimson driver is a mess at this time (copy back too). I don't use it except for HEVC (you can set LAV in this way) but in Italy this is not commonly used yet, so I can test it only with a few samples. RX 460 is more powerful than HD 6670 but it's not good enough for unlocking the full potential of Madvr, that is the real difference between it and EVR. Moreover, it's not only about processing power but about right Madvr settings (very demanding) performance and reliability too. I confirm that I've never seen the long stop issue, the only issues that I can see are about coming back from 3D to 2D and, sometimes, the "empty" Basic Menu, as I wrote. Only an important note: I am on Win 8.1 64bit, I don't know what happens with other Windows versions.

 

[GeYe]

I did not note any significant difference on CPU load after disabling h264 HW accel. and for me the improvement in stop times made it well worth it.

You are right, don't have seen problems till now without h264 hw accel and could reproduce the known issuses with h264 now of AMD, see also:
https://community.amd.com/thread/203197
https://community.amd.com/thread/205679
So my ARD HD and ZDF HD now don't have blocky artefacts after disabling h264 accel. I also set reduce madVr frame: 2 to get rid of the flickering. With this combination of settings, i think i could live with that for the moment. Also tested 3D MVC h264 and had no problems.

Seems we really need to wait for a new driver fixing the issues.

@cabala
I think if you would use copy back, you would get the same issues as we.

 

[kenwonders]

@kenwonders I am thinking of sending the RX 460 back and exchanging it for a GTX 950, which also supports HEVC and I don't think I can run to a 960. I really like 3D so how bad are the issues with MKV/MVC and or 3D disc/image playback with PowerDVD?

PowerDVD I wanted to throw in the sea, never got reliability (PDVD15 with last patch). Last time I checked madVR 3d (MP v209 i think) it will play and stop correctly, but doesn't like going from 3d to another media during playback.

 

[Sebastiii]

Noticed a new oddity while running V225:

- Context menus while video is playing in fullscreen or while in GUI only allow for the first top level menu to open, an example:

AudioSwitcher -> Click button assigned to its context menu -> Will show the top level menu -> Select menu item there like for example "Change Playback Device" -> Should show new menu but nothing happens

If I stop playback it works fine, also affects MP-TVseries and not just dialogs but also navigation between views (All -> Recently aired does nothing for instance) or opening series.
No errors in logs and since it works while stopped suspect something cancelling out those actions as it used to work in earlier versions

For the rest it has been pretty solid so far, crashes have been rare and found something interesting about multi-monitor setups and madVR but not 100% sure this is something Mediaportal related:

- If Mediaportal is on the 2nd (secondary) screen and you have madVR handing refresh rate changes it will not revert back to original refresh rate on playback stop (gets "stuck" at 24P for instance)

hey
I have try to reproduce it but i didn't have remote connected on DEV pc so it seems that i can't map a keyboard key lol.
Any idea how i can test it ?

 

[Rick164]

You can map the MCE color key to a keyboard one using the legacy keyboard handler from Mediaportal as that's how I control it via Flirc atm, it's in the "Optionally you can also map a keyboard key to the remote key like so:" part here:

https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/...ice-via-context-menu-using-remote-key.134209/

For MP-TVseries:

- Watch episode
- Switch to GUI and keep video running using X key
- Try to switch to different views from its right side menu ("views -> recently aired" for instance)
- It will stay on the current view like nothing is pressed.

Also noticed if you keep doing that it will eventually hard crash.


The other crash is when Mediaportal is running on the secondary screen, when you stop playback it will shortly show a black Mediaportal screen on the primary screen and crash.

 

[azzuro]

- Try to switch to different views from its right side menu ("views -> recently aired" for instance)
- It will stay on the current view like nothing is pressed.

related to MadVR rework ?
i use Madvr on serie every day, without crash, but i don't use different view

 

[Rick164]

related to MadVR rework ?

Haven't tested with latest pre-release with EVR yet but this has worked in the past with EVR and MadVR

 

[Sebastiii]

@Rick164
Thanks maping works nicely
Dialogs works but i need to wait between each dialog display to have the action take in

I think it happen because of delay by checking is OSD is displayed or not (related to TopBar and OSD issue) need to look again if we can improve this

 

[joecrow]

@joecrow
There is a lot of change against V209 and last one but does logn stop appear on V209 too ?

With Copy Back and h264 HW accel. selected in LAV, yes the long stop is still there with v209

PowerDVD I wanted to throw in the sea, never got reliability (PDVD15 with last patch). Last time I checked madVR 3d (MP v209 i think) it will play and stop correctly, but doesn't like going from 3d to another media during playback.

From the Cyberlink forums I feared that might be the case. I could probably live with the Madvr issue but I do still have a need, albeit declining, for 3D on PowerDVD 15, caught between the devil and the deep blue sea, it seems. May be best to stay with the devil I know and hope for a speedy driver solution.

 

[Kotik]

@joecrow before you decide to go for a new vga i would suggest u take two things under consideration, NVIDIA Deinterlacing produces worst picture quality results than ur current AMD, i am not familiar with the latest NVIDIA cards so i could be wrong here but i know for sure that all their previous models had bad deinterlacing, they also are unable to match 23.976, again i am not sure regarding the newest model, all the previous ones would give u 23.972 instead of 23.976, as a results u were getting frequent frame drops. That being said, AMD is also unable to perfectly match 23.976, their cards give u 23.977 but that's still better than 23.972 as u can see.

In other words its a mess, it always was and this is why i went for an AMD card that is still able to run with Catalyst BUT i am not watching HEVC so here is were most of ur issues arise, HEVC and UHD are relativelly new and considering how many years it took manufacturers to fix all previous issues i would say we are in for a long long ride. So before u throw more money into the problem i feel u have to know that currently there is no VGA + Driver out there that can give u everything that u ask for.