Missing Freesat UK Channels (2 Viewers)

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For some reason I seem to be missing some Freesat chanels, namely BBC3, BBC4, Channel 5+1, 5USA & 5*. I´ve tried updating the satellite list and rescanning the channels but they still don´t appear.

Any idea why, and what can be done to get them?

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robbo100

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    BBC3 and BBC4 will only show up if you do a scan when they are broadcasting (after 19:00hrs).

    The channel 5 group have recently moved to Astra N. Do you have these channels showing in the list but encrypted? If so, try editing the channels and changing them to Free to Air to see if then then work.

    Robbo100
     

    PureLoneWolf

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    I also have these channels missing. I am not sure what possessed me to do it, but I told TV Server to delete all encrypted channels..

    I found the information on kingofsat.net but can't work out what information I need from the site to populate in the Add Channel dialogue.

    Is someone able to show me what I would enter into the Add Channel dialogue, based on the information for 5 USA here (Astra 1N (28.2°E) - All transmissions - frequencies - KingOfSat)

    Obviously, from that, I can work out the rest that I need.

    Thanks :)
     

    mm1352000

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    Hi PureLoneWolf

    Might be faster to do a manual scan of those three transponders.

    T1

    Frequency = 10964000
    Symbol rate = 22000
    Polarisation = horizontal
    Modulation = not set
    Inner FEC rate = 5/6
    Pilot = not set
    Roll off = not set

    T2

    Frequency = 11053000
    Symbol rate = 22000
    Polarisation = horizontal
    Modulation = not set
    Inner FEC rate = 5/6
    Pilot = not set
    Roll off = not set

    T3

    Frequency = 11127000
    Symbol rate = 22000
    Polarisation = horizontal
    Modulation = 8 PSK
    Inner FEC rate = 2/3
    Pilot = On
    Roll off = 0.35

    If you really want to add channels manually:

    Frequency: the first number after "Astra 1N" multiplied by 1000
    Polarisation: the next letter is the code; H = horizontal, V = vertical, L = circular left, R = circular right
    Modulation: if the next part says "DVB-S" then use "not set", otherwise for "DVB-S2" use "QPSK" or "8 PSK" as specified
    Symbol rate: enter the next number as specified
    Inner FEC rate: select the fraction as specified
    Roll-off and Pilot: not so sure about these as King Of Sat doesn't seem to list them - definitely use "not set" for both for "DVB-S" channels; I would use "0.35" and "On" for DVB-S2 channels
    Network ID: the "NID" value
    Transport ID: the "TID" value
    Service ID: the number in blue against each channel after the encryption type column, column labelled "SID"
    PMT PID: column labelled "PMT" (skip 2 after the "SID" column)
    Provider: doesn't matter - enter whatever you like
    Free to air: tick if "encryption" is clear, otherwise untick

    mm
     

    PureLoneWolf

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    That seems to have done the trick, thanks :)

    Is there a better resource than King of Sat for more complete info?

    Thanks again
     

    mm1352000

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    Hi again

    That seems to have done the trick, thanks
    No worries. :)

    Is there a better resource than King of Sat for more complete info?
    I would say not. The only thing that King of Sat doesn't list are the pilot and roll-off settings. Most newer DVB-S2 tuners are able to determine those parameters automatically. Only older tuners like the Hauppauge Nova HD S2 and HVR-4000 require them to be set explicitly. We have an arrangement with fastsatfinder to get the extra details, but for some reason they're not providing those details publicly. You could always check the details in the MP transponder files:

    C:\ProgramData\Team MediaPortal\MediaPortal TV Server\TuningParameters\dvbs\

    mm
     

    RobNorthcott

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    The channel 5 group have recently moved to Astra N. Do you have these channels showing in the list but encrypted? If so, try editing the channels and changing them to Free to Air to see if then then work.
    That's exactly what I had to do as well. Is this just a teething problem with these new channels, or will they need editing every time I do a rescan? (not that I'll probably ever watch any of them anyway!)

    Rob
     

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