MPStandbyHandler - Does Not Record On 2nd And Subsequent Recordings (3 Viewers)

[gperkinson]

Both the overnight recordings seemed to work OK i.e. 1 on HD and the other on Analog, however the 7:00pm recording did not start - I started it manually as my wife needed it recorded. I will still drop the TV.log into the forum (once my family is finished with the TV) and give some details on the recordings that did work and those that did not.

Some other observations when I noticed the recording did not happen:

- In TVS the first HD tuner had no signal level or quality indicated, where as the 2nd tuner had full strength

- There was no sound when playing live TV

- Realised that I have the EPG mapped to the Analog AND HD channels in TVS on the recordings I am making - I'm not sure that having the same show name in TV Guide at the same time might cause confusion? The reason I ask is that when I set a HD recording, the Analog recording comes up as a "future eposode"

I'm also going to re-introduce the MPStandbyHandler tonight for recordings overnight and over tomorrow and see if that helps - I'm thinking that re-starting the TVS might be the answer based on Paranoid Delusions settings (as opposed to delay on the tuner card)

In terms of some of your suggestions Paranoid Delusion:

- I have TVS and MP running on the same machine
- I just have wireless internet
- Will check the motherboard driver
- Will check BIOS
- copying to external HDD is about 1 GB per minute

Thanks for your help guys.

Also interested about how you machine is going Paranoid Delusion.

Cheers

Graham

 

[gperkinson]

Hi 5Hundred,

OK, tonights logs attached and this time I checked that there was something in them.

A bit of detail about what happened tonight:

I actually set no recordings for today so the machine was sleeping all day and was scheduled to record at 7:00pm tonight (start 1 minute before) At 7:02, I opened MP and noticed the recording indicator was not on and therefore turned the TV on, selected the channel I wanted to record and manually selected "record current program".

Hopefully there is enough to go on.

Cheers

Graham

 

[5Hundred]

Hi Graham, thanks for the log, quite revealing.

There is an error reported with the code, 0x8007001F, looking at the MS website this brings up The Error (0x8007001F) Is Generated When You Use Certain Video Capture Cards

A device attached to the system is not functioning (0x8007001F)

Looking at the log we can see from just before 7pm and then onwards the system repeatedly tries to start the recording but cant because of the above error.

I would tentatively suggest that the card is somehow not being properly woken up after a standby.

This is why the stopping and then starting of the Tvservice has worked for you in the past as most likely that has restarted the card in someway allowing the TVservice to successfully use it. So i imagine that you will have to try to get MPSH working with your setup as that has the ability to restart the TVservice after standby.

I'm sure it doesn't help that your Powerscheduler settings are so "tight" as well, i.e. there appears to be very little pre wake up time allocated and also you have your system shutting down after being awake for 60 seconds. These settings can be changed within the Powerscheduler configuration screens of both MP and TVserver. I use a "enter standby if idle for 15 mins", check every 300 secs and pre wake up time of 5 mins. The last one is particularly important as i feel this gives the system enough time to settle down before beginning a recording. With yours it looks as if the computer wakes up and the recording should have already begun. I'm sure this has caused issues on mine in the past.

So in short, MPSH to restart TVservice after standby is probably required, expand your powerscheduler time settings to allow a bit more time for the computer to wake up and stay awake.

 

[gperkinson]

Hi 5Hundred,

Many thanks for your reply and suggestions - much appreciated.

I had suspected the same thing i.e. the tuner card is not woken up.

The Pre-wakeup I had set was 180 seconds, however what you might have been seeing is all the delays and timeouts I had in place already with MPSH and also the delay in the Tuner Re-initialisation set in the General Settings in TVS of 30 seconds, so yes, perhaps in total there was not enough time. I have therefore definately set this to 300 seconds as you have suggested. What is the delay on your tuner re-initialisation in TVS???

I had left the "check" at 60 seconds, because my understanding of that is how often it checks the Powerscheduler dettings to what is going on, however I will try 300 seconds as you have suggested.

In a nutshell, I now have all the Advanced settings at 300 seconds and the standby if idle at 15 minutes (previously 10 minutes)

Another observation from todays failed recordings was that the Analog tuner (PVR150) recorded fine and the NOVA 500-T did not. I'm therefore thinking this supports your suggestion of allowing the card more time to set itself up.

OK, will give that a shot and let you know.

Cheers and thanks again for your suggestions.

Regards

Graham

 

[5Hundred]

Hi Graham, i just use 15 seconds for my tuner initialisation, i dont think extending yours is the answer. I dont think the card will ever be ready using the current setup. Its already overly long and i would suggest reducing it to around 20 seconds and having the tv service restart by MPSH, this last element should make all the difference.

As a left field idea before embarking on installing MPSH, try changing the priority of your DVB-T cards within MP TV server, you'll need to enter the TV Server configuration screen showing the tv cards, highlight the card 2nd from the top and click on the move up button which is further down the screen. This will make the currently second card the one with top priority. It shouldn't make a difference but it just might.

 

[gperkinson]

Hi 5Hundred,

Thanks for the reply and suggestion.

Nothing recorded during the day today at all and my usual 7:00pm recording did not work at all. I have attached the TV log which ran from re-booting last night right through just before re-booting this evening at 6:45pm.

I will try tonight reducing the TV Tuner delay in TVS to 20 seconds, pre-wakeup time to 300 seconds and load a 25 second delay for TVS Start along with 120 second timeout and a TVS stop prior (Kill immediately) and see what happens. I have also re-ordered the TV Tuners for DVB-T. By the way, I also have a dual Analog tuner which seems to record OK, so gotta be something to do with this damm NOVA 500-T tuner card.

Will see how tonight and today goes.

Cheers

Graham

 

[gperkinson]

Hi Guys,

I'm getting no recordings at all now with the above settings.

I think I might start looking at Paranoid Delusion's idea of drivers, Bios and other operating system settings.

Guys, is there anything else you can see in the logs I have attached? Are there other tests I could do? Are there other logs I could drop to pinpoint the issue?

Thanks

Graham

 

[5Hundred]

Hi Graham, you said that you're stopping the TVservice but are you starting it again? Without it there will be no recordings at all.

 

[gperkinson]

Hi 5hundred,

Yes, absolutely - I'm stopping and starting it again.

In Paranoid Delusions post, he mentions his 2nd Tuner Card on the Nova 500-T does not pickup any signal - I have exactly the same issue and it's fine after a re-boot.

By the way, the PVR150 Analog card works fine when waking from S3 sleep - it's just this dam Nova 500-T Card. The machine always wakes up as per the Powerscheduler settings, it's just that the tuner card does not work.

Are there any other settings guys that you can think of? Is it about power to the PCI slots after wakeup? How much time should a TV Tuner need to re-initialise?

My Bios although not completely up to date, is very recent and in the text describing the versions after what I have only talks about compatability with recent CPU's, so I'm not very confident this is the answer.

Any other ideas welcome.

Paranoid Delusion, was your problem pretty much fixed after using MPSH?

Cheers

Graham

 

[5Hundred]

Hi Graham, i'm afraid i've reached the outside of my knowledge envelope!

If all else fails i guess a different DVB-T card from Santa might solve the problem with a lot less head scratching, but of course this would be a last resort.