My Films 5 - AMC Updater (1 Viewer)

[Dadeo]

Ah gotcha - Yes we talked about global updates by field in MF before (such as when using Incomplete Movie data). That is a feature request I plan to add after final is released! The only way I can think of at present is to remove all the pictures (i.e. delete in windows), then update missing properties using alpacine.

You should be able to do it via AMCU Updater (Manual Update tab) just selecting the pictures field, which is what I think Guzzi was referring to above.

 

[z3us]

Another thing: when doing a manual update - update record, it always searchs for the original title, is that the intended behaviour?

 

[Guzzi]

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Another thing: when doing a manual update - update record, it always searchs for the original title, is that the intended behaviour?

Hi z3us,
I just looked into the code - it is using "originaltitle" for "update", yes. This will work fine for english users - so I assume you would prefer using translatedtitle to search for update?
What we could do is to use "mastertitle" for searching - so whatever is configured as mastertitle will then be set - would that help?
Guzzi

 

[z3us]

Yes, that would help. Actually , "try to find best match..." is useless for me with some grabbers

 

[Guzzi]

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Yes, that would help. Actually , "try to find best match..." is useless for me with some grabbers

sure - it very much depends on the grabber / internet site, if that can work nicely or not. For some, you can get fully automatic matching, for others not.
Best matching you'll get, if the search page contains year and director - or IMDB Id when using it.

If there is a possibility to map one internet site to another via IDs (like IMDB-TMDB or IMDB-OFDB), you can define such a subpage in grabber script and use that instead. But again, this of course doesn't help, if the respective internet site only supplies title or title/year without further infos.

Will see, if I can change update search title to mastertitle in the evening.

 

[Alesfrancor]

First at all, Thank you very much for your great work and for keeping this plugin growing up.

I´m very hapy updating MP to 1.2.0 because I can finaly try MyFilms 5.

I'm used to update manualy my AMC. But with the new features I'm trying AMCUpdater. In settings, item for storage file info, I use URL. But doing a global update, some movies that was not in my catalog are now added but the URL field get the movie URL instead of storage file info.

I used the option "import media label" in AMC, usefull to know in wich HDD the movie is stored (I use HDD with only movies labeled CINE I, CINE II, etc., and not ). ¿This option doesn't exist in AMCU?

I thought to change storage file info to source field but I don't know if is posible do it with amcu (My catalog is very big...)

 

[Guzzi]

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First at all, Thank you very much for your great work and for keeping this plugin growing up.

I´m very hapy updating MP to 1.2.0 because I can finaly try MyFilms 5.

I'm used to update manualy my AMC. But with the new features I'm trying AMCUpdater. In settings, item for storage file info, I use URL. But doing a global update, some movies that was not in my catalog are now added but the URL field get the movie URL instead of storage file info.

Can you retry the same, but NOT selecting URL in the database tab - I assume, that source field is properly populated, but then afterwards overwritten with URL info, as you requested to do so. If you can confirm that, I can add code, that import data will be prevented, if a field is selected as source field, making that more robust for users.

I used the option "import media label" in AMC, usefull to know in wich HDD the movie is stored (I use HDD with only movies labeled CINE I, CINE II, etc., and not ). ¿This option doesn't exist in AMCU?

There is an option to read media label infos from DVDs - but currently not for harddiscs. Should not bee too hard - you could create a feature request on google code, so other users can "star" it. If there is enough interest, we can add that.

I thought to change storage file info to source field but I don't know if is posible do it with amcu (My catalog is very big...)

I just had a look, there is currently no wa doing that with AMCU (copying all values from URL to SOURCE). Afaik, there is scripts for AMC available, that might be able to do that.
If you don't have used the source field yet, you could also just do a search and replace on the XML catalog file (replace 'URL="' with 'Source="'). Don't forget to make a backup, in case something goes wrong.

 

[hafblade]

Hi

I really like MyFilms and in the last days I worked into the AMC Updater and its features and I have to say that it is a great step forward for MyFilms.

But I've got some problem with it. The problem is a practical one: I can not believe that it is used by unexperienced users due to its large functionality and customizability. I'm one of the guys who don't have a problem with sitting in front of the htpc and customizing / trying like hell but I know many people which will choose other solutions instead even if they miss a large number of cool features when they don't use MyFilms.

So dear developers. Could it possible (perhaps in a future release) to add some standard updating mechanism which suits the means of many standard user so that they may be able to do a one-click-import for a larger number of movies?

Here an example:
When using MovingPictures there is the possibility to say:
1) Try data scrapper "ABC"
2) If you can't find something with "ABC" use "DEF" ... and than "GHI" and so on.
3) And than use the following scrappers for covers.
4) And than use the following scrappers for fanart.

I read that there is the possibility to CREATE or UPDATE entries with AMCUpdater could it be possible to create such small priority queues or something like that in a later release?

I can't see some automatic updating for MyFilms data when you always have to set your updater up manually by saying "now I want data from imdb" and "now pictures from xyz". Even if he may find false entries or skip entries with the updater a one click solution would be much better for many users.

But this is only my opionion. I love the features of MyFilms and don't want to miss them anymore. But sometimes its really much work to put together the movie database one by one.

 

[Guzzi]

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Hi

I really like MyFilms and in the last days I worked into the AMC Updater and its features and I have to say that it is a great step forward for MyFilms.

But I've got some problem with it. The problem is a practical one: I can not believe that it is used by unexperienced users due to its large functionality and customizability.

I agree on that one - due to the many use cases and many different features MyFilms supports, it is not easy to discover all of those.
We tried to get that problem "under control" by supplying the setup wizard, that does create a working setup with presets with just a few clicks - including basic import by a "preset" AMCupdater.

I'm one of the guys who don't have a problem with sitting in front of the htpc and customizing / trying like hell but I know many people which will choose other solutions instead even if they miss a large number of cool features when they don't use MyFilms.

With the changes for MyFilms5 we tried to meet both - an easy setup for starters (using the wizard) while keeping all possibilities for people willing (and asking for) tweaking everything to their personal taste/needs - up to installs, where people have NAS storage, centralized databases with multiple userprofiles, etc.
Yes, if you want to use all features of MyFilms, you will need some time to read about them, decide what and how you want to use them.

So dear developers.

Unfortunately only one ... ;-)

Could it possible (perhaps in a future release) to add some standard updating mechanism which suits the means of many standard user so that they may be able to do a one-click-import for a larger number of movies?

Actually, that is / should already be possible.
With a standard setup you should be able "out of the box" to just import new movies by not even starting the AMCupdater GUI - just by using the Global update from MyFilms GUI.
However, there are a lot of options, you can change in AMCupdater setup, like e.g. if you want to import movies not recognized, what data to import, etc. - so we tried to make a good matching standard setup for AMCupdater, when you create a config with the MyFilms config wizard.
But we have still missing proper documentation for it and are interested in feedback from users of course.
For example we had internal discussions if we should replace a lot of the single settings in AMCupdater with a selection of "use cases" to make it easier for users.

Here an example:
When using MovingPictures there is the possibility to say:
1) Try data scrapper "ABC"
2) If you can't find something with "ABC" use "DEF" ... and than "GHI" and so on.
3) And than use the following scrappers for covers.
4) And than use the following scrappers for fanart.
I read that there is the possibility to CREATE or UPDATE entries with AMCUpdater could it be possible to create such small priority queues or something like that in a later release?

Many things are possible, if time and resources allow it - the first question is how many users are requiring such functionalities.
MyFilms supports many different use cases - e.g. users of eXtreme Movie Manager do all their scraping in their movie manager - and probably will never use AMCupdater at all.
During beta phase, there was very little feedback from testers about AMCupdater - so it was difficult to get an idea, if it is something users are interested at all. So feedback is always valuable and gives us ideas about future directions.
There might come some more improvements to AMCupdater in future releases - but you should be aware, that MyFilms adresses different use cases than e.g. moving pictures does and is not meant to replace nor to compete with it.
However, there is "some" existing possibilities for scraping from multiple pages by setting up your own scraper script - like it is done in IMDB-OFDB scraper - it checks certain pages first and you can configure which data should be used as preferred source. Not comparable to a flexible mulltiscraper solution of course and "not for beginners" ... just to mention it ;-)

I can't see some automatic updating for MyFilms data when you always have to set your updater up manually by saying "now I want data from imdb" and "now pictures from xyz". Even if he may find false entries or skip entries with the updater a one click solution would be much better for many users.

The current approach and afaik workflow for most users not maintaining their DB in external catalogs is currently to auto import their movies with the "best matching settings" and then correct/update/modify them either directly in MyFilms GUI or AMC.
However, it would be nice to get more feedback from users about their "workflow".

But this is only my opionion. I love the features of MyFilms and don't want to miss them anymore. But sometimes its really much work to put together the movie database one by one.

I think we should put some better examples of possible workflows to the wiki (there is no "standard workflow" due to many different use cases).
Future development plan is probably to first get a maintenance release 5.1.1 out, that fixes problems found in current final and after that a feature release 5.2.
So feedback is appreciated and we'll see, what can make it into a next release ;-)

 

[Guzzi]

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I thought to change storage file info to source field but I don't know if is posible do it with amcu (My catalog is very big...)

Hi Alesfrancor,
there is now a "Copy Value" function added to the update tab, that should do what you were asking for. This should be useful if users want to copy content of one field to another, like in your example or when willing to use a different field for extended watched status.
It can be done for the whole catalog or based on configurable conditions.
Would be nice to get some feedback on testing - please don't forget backup of your catalog, as there was no feedback during beta about it.