Perfect MKV playback with DXVA in MPC HC, but not in MP (1 Viewer)

[pilehave]

TV-Server Version: 1.0.2.0
MediaPortal Version: 1.0.2.0
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Hi!

I finally managed to get Media Player Classic HomeCinema tweaked to perfect playback with reclock + DXVA = no stutter and no tearing.

The graph below is how my perfect render is setup.



Trying to set up same in MediaPortal proves more than difficult. I can get DXVA, but not without ReClock turning yelleow (stutter is the result of that).

For some reason I don't see the audio render in the filter, at all?



I have 5 screenshots more of graphs not working, but that will lead us nowhere

HW is as listed above, Gigabyte GA-MA78 with ATI 3200, DXVA enabled everywhere I can. Now, in Media Player Classic I have all external filters disabled, except for Reclock Audio Renderer. Internal filters are also all disabled, except for Matroska in Source filters and H.264/AVC (DXVA) in Transform filters.

Since Haali Media Splitter isn't in use in the graph that works, I uninstalled this. This just put the ArcSoft MKV splitter at work, which is laggy as nothing else

So status is, MPC HC works like a charm, MediaPortal playback is laggy.

Has anyone else got this working?

 

[Paranoid Delusion]

Personally use MPC-HC\CoreAVC or Xvid for Video, all other setting use FFDShow for Audio only and the only time I have had stutter, was with XP, this was resolved by using the AMD Dual Core Optimizer from their website.

Other than that, I'm stuffed for answers, this does seem to be a common problem for some people, and still there is no conclusive answer, why one person has this problem and another does not

 

[tourettes]

I would assume the MKV's audio stream is something that haali's splitter is not handling. Try to force MPC-HC to use haali splitter instead of the Matroska Source (which is most likely MPC-HC internal filter), just to confirm the theory

Or you could build the graph in GraphEdit that has the haali splitter as source filter.

 

[pilehave]

I would assume the MKV's audio stream is something that haali's splitter is not handling. Try to force MPC-HC to use haali splitter instead of the Matroska Source (which is most likely MPC-HC internal filter), just to confirm the theory

Or you could build the graph in GraphEdit that has the haali splitter as source filter.

Good point about the difference with Matroska Source and Haali - if indeed the Matroska Source is only available inside MPC HC, then it isn't available in MediaPortal, right?

I'll test as soon as I get home

 

[Owlsroost]

The MPC-HC filters are available as standalone filters - XvidVideo.RU - Ñêà÷èâàíèÿ | Àâòîíîìíûå ôèëüòðû / Standalone Filters MPC-HC | Media Player Classic HomeCinema - just unpack and register the ones you need manually.

Tony

 

[tourettes]

The MPC-HC filters are available as standalone filters - XvidVideo.RU - Ñêà÷èâàíèÿ | Àâòîíîìíûå ôèëüòðû / Standalone Filters MPC-HC | Media Player Classic HomeCinema - just unpack and register the ones you need manually.

Tony

Would be much safer to link to sourceforge site instead of a Russian site that providers binaries

 

[Owlsroost]

XvidVideo.RU seems to be the site for the latest versions of MPC-HC (currently at svn 1161) - the latest binaries on SourceForge SourceForge.net: MPC - Homecinema: Files are svn 908 (from 6 months ago).

The Russian site is linked in the SAF thread (in the first post) - I've been using it for MPC-HC and FFDShow downloads for months (and yes, I was a bit dubious at first but I've never had any problems with it).

Why do you think it's unsafe ?

Tony

 

[pilehave]

Here at work I have a similar setup as at home, AMD processor, Ati card (although onboard without DXVA) and Windows XP. A quick test with Haali Media Splitter installed, Matroska Source unchecked I get a really nice synced picture in MPC HC.

Now I managed to get the graphs more alike, in both MP and MPC HC I get the Halli icon visible, Reclock turns green and FFA icon shows.

Still, MP refuses to play back smoothly.


Looks good


Looks good too


This is bad! 15 fps in average?

 

[hoborg]

Here at work I have a similar setup as at home, AMD processor, Ati card (although onboard without DXVA) and Windows XP. A quick test with Haali Media Splitter installed, Matroska Source unchecked I get a really nice synced picture in MPC HC.

Now I managed to get the graphs more alike, in both MP and MPC HC I get the Halli icon visible, Reclock turns green and FFA icon shows.

Still, MP refuses to play back smoothly.

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Looks good

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Looks good too

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This is bad! 15 fps in average?

Maybe becouse latest versions of MPC-HC standalone decoder have broken software decoding for h.264 (extremly slow) You need to use older version like 1.2.1043.0 (SAF use it).

You can combine SAF + FFDShow, no need to setup it manualy.

Hmm, i can see, that lot of people are afraid of Russians
XvidVideo.RU is official site for MPC-HC,MPC, xvid, ffdshow, x264. Lot of developers who working on this software are russians...

 

[Owlsroost]

I'd check that the MPC-HC decoder really is using DXVA in MP (right click on it in the filter graph to bring up the properties page).

You may just be suffering from GPU performance issues - see https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/1-0-1-svn-builds-313/1080i-material-not-deinterlacing-under-1-0-1-0-a-58486/ (MP generates a higher GPU load than MPC-HC - this is more of a problem with low-powered integrated GPUs).

Tony