SAF v4.00 ''stable'' (StandAlone Filters) - DXVA ready (H.264 and VC-1). (33 Viewers)

Should i integrate FFDshow in to SAF?

  • Yes

    Votes: 406 85.5%
  • No

    Votes: 69 14.5%

  • Total voters
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NikeNeGerek

Portal Pro
October 21, 2008
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Istanbul
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Hi all,

I'm having a strange issue when watching shows or movies using SAF. What's happing appears to be like a frame drop of some sort as a scrolling scene in a show will result in a jump or skip. Sound doesn't seem to be affected at all. I too had searched around for the perfect solution with codecs and finally came across this and it's perfect, except for the skipping. I have a GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H mobo with 1G of ram (maybe need more?) and a 4600+ proc. I stream everything over the network which is 1Gb in my house.

I had installed Mediaportal and just installed the divx bundle prior to installing SAF so maybe there is some left over registry snippets from that package even though it's uninstalled? I also have quicktime installed for apple trailers.

I'm just running both stable versions of Mediaportal and SAF (1.01 and 3.40 I believe).

I was going to try re-installing everything on another HD and not install anything but the two and see if this works. Thanks for any assistance that can be offered.

Hi Hoborg,

I'm having the exact same problem. It disappears if i execute your 'Turn off DXVA' reg file. And i also figured out that if i make the file mkv, the problem disappears.

I think it is playing fine in MPC-HC, but i must double-check when i got home.

I'm using the following config;
Mediaportal 1.0 SVN 21813
SAF 3.45
HD3200 Integrated
Catalyst 8.5
For rest, you can see my cp.
 

yeti

Portal Member
August 24, 2006
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Hello,

Thanks for all your hints.

- Subtitle: ooops, I've probably missed this setting, I will check ... If checked, DXVA is always deactivated or only when using subtitles ?
- I will try to disable DXVA to see if it works.
- I will try to make again the mkv file by myself
- For subtitle with DXVA, I will probably wait until this is part of MediaPortal (1.0.2 ?)

I've tested with 24Hz (24pfs), vertical sync activated, but I have a HUGE tearing effect. Any explanation ?

Thanks
Yeti
 

hoborg

Portal Pro
June 13, 2008
4,413
1,644
Nový Jičín
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Hello,

Thanks for all your hints.

- Subtitle: ooops, I've probably missed this setting, I will check ... If checked, DXVA is always deactivated or only when using subtitles ?
- I will try to disable DXVA to see if it works.
- I will try to make again the mkv file by myself
- For subtitle with DXVA, I will probably wait until this is part of MediaPortal (1.0.2 ?)

I've tested with 24Hz (24pfs), vertical sync activated, but I have a HUGE tearing effect. Any explanation ?

Thanks
Yeti

If you facing tearing problem:
-on XP - make sure vsync is ON
-on VISTA - make sure AERO and vsync is ON

DXVA is ON when:
-video have no subtitles
-you have DXVA hardware
-video is DXVA compatible
-on XP use VMR9 (not EVR!)
-on VISTA EVR
 

coryking

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May 11, 2007
11
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Hi all,

I'm having a strange issue when watching shows or movies using SAF. What's happing appears to be like a frame drop of some sort as a scrolling scene in a show will result in a jump or skip. Sound doesn't seem to be affected at all. I too had searched around for the perfect solution with codecs and finally came across this and it's perfect, except for the skipping. I have a GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H mobo with 1G of ram (maybe need more?) and a 4600+ proc. I stream everything over the network which is 1Gb in my house.

I had installed Mediaportal and just installed the divx bundle prior to installing SAF so maybe there is some left over registry snippets from that package even though it's uninstalled? I also have quicktime installed for apple trailers.

I'm just running both stable versions of Mediaportal and SAF (1.01 and 3.40 I believe).

I was going to try re-installing everything on another HD and not install anything but the two and see if this works. Thanks for any assistance that can be offered.

Hi Hoborg,

I'm having the exact same problem. It disappears if i execute your 'Turn off DXVA' reg file. And i also figured out that if i make the file mkv, the problem disappears.

I think it is playing fine in MPC-HC, but i must double-check when i got home.

I'm using the following config;
Mediaportal 1.0 SVN 21813
SAF 3.45
HD3200 Integrated
Catalyst 8.5
For rest, you can see my cp.


I tried MP-HC last night and the same thing happens as it does in MP with all shows. For additional information I used PowerDVD 9 to get the .ax file which seems to work as CPU is below 5% for most shows. I'm also using Catalyst 9.3 drivers. I could revert to 8.5 if it would work better? I have also allocated 256MB ram to video mem.

This isn't just one movie that it's happening to either, I can see a bit of jitter/skipping on 720p shows as well. :confused:
 

datfreak

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  • March 19, 2006
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    Hi, turned out the files were coded abit dodgy.. I converted them from to h264 to h264 ie the same format, by using a converter -(very slow to do ) and now it works great.
    Which is really good as i didnt want to mess with MP and SAF settings as its working so well at the moment.
    thanks again

    I'll found some files it doesnt like..They play but so jerky it is unwatchable

    Im using: saf 3.3 with CLVsd.ax MP 1.0
    the files work ok with media player classic(on different pc) and have these specs:
    type : KLCP.AVI
    Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 560x464 25.00fps 539Kbps [Video 0]
    Audio: MPEG Audio Layer 3 48000Hz stereo 160Kbps [Audio 1]
    I thought Id ask here before I started screwing with settings at random. Any ideas?

    First - try it in latest version of MPC-HC player on your HTPC with MP - it is OK?

    Chceck CPU usage - if it is more then 90%, you hit jackpot.

    ly
     

    csapollo

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    May 17, 2007
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    The only MKV files that I have trouble playing are the ones that don't support DXVA. Is there a simple way to re-encode all of my MKV's (batch encode or similar), to DXVA compliant files without losing quality? I don't want to convert to AVI.
     

    Paranoid Delusion

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  • June 13, 2005
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    The only MKV files that I have trouble playing are the ones that don't support DXVA

    xvid4psp will do this, it also has a batch encode, but have not tested that, but can confirm using the settings in picture below gives good dxva results.

    sshot-28.jpg

    These are by far the best settings
     

    Duqe

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    April 5, 2009
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    Hi.

    I have SAF perfectly installed. Now nearly all my HD videos work perfectly even with DXVA. Actually, video is perfect in all of them, as fas as i know. But problems come with the sound. Have some videos on wich sounds doesnt fit with image. And difference is not a bit. Starts slowly untill it goes to quite some seconds of delay from image to sound. It really bothers me since its a tv serie wich i really want to see. If it may help, heres the mediainfo of the files:

    General
    Nombre completo : C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\*****.mkv
    Formato : Matroska
    Tamaño del archivo : 8,39GIB
    Duración : 1h 13min.
    Bitrate total : 16,4Mbps
    Película : malevaje Episodio 1
    Fecha de codificación : UTC 2009-01-28 10:32:21
    Codificando : mkvmerge v2.4.1 ('Use Me') built on Dec 11 2008 15:41:36
    Codificando librería : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
    Video
    Formato : AVC
    Formato/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Formato del perfil : High@L4.1
    Ajustes del formato, CABAC : Si
    Ajustes del formato, RefFrames : 5 frame
    Modo Muxing : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
    ID Códec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duración : 1h 13min.
    Bitrate : 13,6Mbps
    Bitrate nominal : 14,3Mbps
    Ancho : 1 920pixeles
    Alto : 1 072pixeles
    Relación de aspecto : 16/9
    Velocidad de cuadro : 23,976fps
    Resolución : 24bits
    Colorimetry : 4:2:0
    Tipo de exploración : Progresivo
    Bits/(Pixel*cuadros) : 0.275
    Título : CURRAHE
    Codificando librería : x264 core 65 r1061M 839cd8c
    Opciones de codificación : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-2:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=12 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=14252 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
    Idioma : inglés
    Audio #1
    Formato : AC-3
    Formato/Info : Audio Coding 3
    ID Códec : A_AC3
    Duración : 1h 13min.
    Bitrate : 640Kbps
    Canales(es) : 6canales
    Posiciones del canal : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
    Velocidad de la muestra : 48,0KHz
    Título : 5.1
    Idioma : español
    Audio #2
    Formato : DTS
    Formato/Info : Digital Theater Systems
    ID Códec : A_DTS
    Duración : 1h 13min.
    Bitrate : 1 536Kbps
    Canales(es) : 6canales
    Posiciones del canal : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
    Velocidad de la muestra : 48,0KHz
    Resolución : 16bits
    Título : DTS
    Idioma : inglés
    Texto #1
    Formato : UTF-8
    ID Códec : S_TEXT/UTF8
    ID Códec/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
    Título : Forzados
    Idioma : español
    Texto #2
    Formato : UTF-8
    ID Códec : S_TEXT/UTF8
    ID Códec/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
    Idioma : español


    As i said, SAF is full working, even with PowerDVD 9 codec. The system is completely up to date, since i just assembled it some days ago, and all drivers are downloaded from its webpages.

    Would like to know whats exactly the problem, and if it could be possible to solve it. Either with some codecs or rebuilding the MKVs and changing the audio.

    Thx in advance and sorry for my english.
     

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