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Hi hoborg. I have stuttering in MKV and Avi with these new release and lots of artifacts....
 

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Re: SAF v5.00 experimental (based on FFDShow DXVA decoder)

Hi hoborg. I have stuttering in MKV and Avi with these new release and lots of artifacts....

Strange, i cannot reproduce any of this issues...

Sorry , my bad! It was spmething about my led tv motion plus... It's solved now.
BTW I have one mkv that doesn't start. Ill post a sample here....
 

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    Hi Hoborg et al,

    I'm currently using MP1.1.0.0 Final+SAF5.0 running on an Atom330/ION.

    I use PDVD10 as my main codec as I have noticed some stutter in the playback using ffdshow dxva. PDVD seems to provide me a better playback experience. Also for my DVD & TV playback I have been using PDVD10, which does the job perfectly.

    Recently, I've been experimenting with Bluray playback. Using a combination of BD Handler and AnyDVD/HD, Ive been able to playback BD discs succesfully. So far so good...

    When I playback an m2ts file encoded with AVC, MP (and MPC player for that matter) uses the PDVD10 codec to playback the file. Stutterfree and with high quality.
    However, when I start to playback an m2ts file encoded with VC-1, both MP and MPC revert to the ffdshow dxva codec. I know this by connecting to the remote graph using GraphMonitor. Unfortunately, the playback isn't stutter free this time and I would like to see what the result would be when I use the PDVD codec.

    Is there any way to force MP to use the PDVD codec for all m2ts files?
    I read on the PDVD site that PDVD does support VC-1 so it should be able to playback the file. Just don't understand why it falls back to ffdshow when the encoding is vc-1 and uses PDVD when the encoding is AVC.

    Any comments, suggestions?

    Regards,

    Peter
     

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    Hi there,

    Might be a stupid question but I'll ask it anyway.... :D

    I am running the latest SAF on my Atom - but I initially suffered from stuttering. I then noticed that ffdshow was configured to resize to the screen resolution (in my case 1920)

    The client has not got enough grunt to process this - so I turned off resize.

    From my poor eyes (and potentially the SD content I use) I can not see any difference from this being on or off?

    J.
     

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    Hi Hoborg et al,

    I'm currently using MP1.1.0.0 Final+SAF5.0 running on an Atom330/ION.

    I use PDVD10 as my main codec as I have noticed some stutter in the playback using ffdshow dxva. PDVD seems to provide me a better playback experience. Also for my DVD & TV playback I have been using PDVD10, which does the job perfectly.

    Recently, I've been experimenting with Bluray playback. Using a combination of BD Handler and AnyDVD/HD, Ive been able to playback BD discs succesfully. So far so good...

    When I playback an m2ts file encoded with AVC, MP (and MPC player for that matter) uses the PDVD10 codec to playback the file. Stutterfree and with high quality.
    However, when I start to playback an m2ts file encoded with VC-1, both MP and MPC revert to the ffdshow dxva codec. I know this by connecting to the remote graph using GraphMonitor. Unfortunately, the playback isn't stutter free this time and I would like to see what the result would be when I use the PDVD codec.

    Is there any way to force MP to use the PDVD codec for all m2ts files?
    I read on the PDVD site that PDVD does support VC-1 so it should be able to playback the file. Just don't understand why it falls back to ffdshow when the encoding is vc-1 and uses PDVD when the encoding is AVC.

    Any comments, suggestions?

    Regards,

    Peter

    Look here: * Official * Cyberlink PowerDVD 10 Ultra thread - Page 6 - AVS Forum

    Hi there,

    Might be a stupid question but I'll ask it anyway.... :D

    I am running the latest SAF on my Atom - but I initially suffered from stuttering. I then noticed that ffdshow was configured to resize to the screen resolution (in my case 1920)

    The client has not got enough grunt to process this - so I turned off resize.

    From my poor eyes (and potentially the SD content I use) I can not see any difference from this being on or off?

    J.

    Resize doesnot work correctly in MePo.
    But resizing is needed for hi quality subtitles if you are using FFDshow subtitles engine.
     

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    - so I turned off resize.

    From my poor eyes (and potentially the SD content I use) I can not see any difference from this being on or off?
    You are referring to FFDSHOW Video > Resize?

    As I understand, any functions performed within FFDSHOW are handled by the CPU.

    This means if FFDSHOW Resize is enabled, your CPU performs the work of resizing before passing the video along to your GPU.

    If FFDSHOW Resize is disabled, the work is instead performed by your GPU -- assuming you are viewing the video larger than original size (e.g. full screen). Note that if MePo Zoom level = Original, then no resizing will occur.

    If your GPU does this task adequately, that's good. And why not let it do that job, as it is a GPU after all!


    One other thought: Deinterlacing takes a decent amount of processing power as well, so you can look to see if FFDSHOW (therefore CPU) is performing this or if this job is being passed to your GPU. If FFDSHOW is handling this, you can select which method of deinterlacing to use, as some are more computationally intensive than others. Search back through this thread for tips on this... Here is some info from Hoborg: https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/...w-dxva-decoder-77591/index126.html#post646886
     

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    Hi Hoborg,

    Thanks for the tip. That did the trick! I was able to playback VC-1 using PDVD10 in MPC and MePo.

    However, two remaining "issues":

    1. In order to have MePo select the Cyberlink VC-1 codec, I had to tell ffdshow not to use itself in Mediaportal.exe (in the configuration). Is there a more elegant way to ensure which codec is selected in MePo for playback of m2ts files?

    2. Bad playback of m2ts/VC-1 files
    Playback with PDVD results in a lot of stuttering (looks like framedrops) from the start of the movie and all the way through.
    Playback with ffdshow dxva starts well (without stutter) but after 5 mins or so, video and audio start to come dysnchronised and the video also start to stutter.
    Is this due to my system not being powerful enough (Atom330/ION) or could it be something else?
    I don't have the issue when playing back m2ts/AVC content, so I doubt it has anything to do with the resolution of the video playback (1920x1080).

    Thanks for some advice. :D

    Greetz,

    Peter
     

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    Pletskop:

    1) Just disable not wanted decoders in FFDshow setting
    2) Yes, and that is the reason, why i dont use this loader in SAF. There is not any easy way how to play VC-1i right now. It need to be supported by FFMpeg firstly.
     

    brab

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    Hoborg,

    I ran into very bizarre problem today, tried everything I could think of to fix it and I am at a brick wall.

    Until today I had 100823 version of SAF 5.00 installed.
    Last week I installed AC3Filter to test something out on TV, I had some sync issues, and forgot to uninstall it afterwards.

    Today I went to upgrade to newest svn of SAF, 100921, and it prompted me to uninstall AC3Filter, which I did, and continued with install of SAF afterwards.
    The problem is that since I did all that I have no AC3 sound (DD or DTS) without AC3Filter being installed, so SAF alone does not work (and it used to before today).

    To give you some background, I went to upgrade because the newest Soup episode (The.Soup.2010.09.24.720p.HDTV.x264-MOMENTUM) I downloaded crashes within second of playing in MePo.
    It's the first time since I began to use MePo that I have such thing happen.
    That particular MKV doesn't crash if I enable Automated Decoder Settings.

    This is how I had codecs for video set up when they are not Automatic.



    Output on ffdshow is the following:



    Graphstudio with AC3Filter:



    Graphstudio without AC3Filter:


    Thanks for your help, any thoughts would be appreciated...
     

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