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jo16v

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i was spurred to action by the lack of source for the plugin discussed on this list and was asked if i minded my hard work being "ripped off"; so i felt that i should let people here know.
So you think djBlu used your code - is that what you're suggesting?

Either way, it works really well.

Rob
No Mr Kenyon stole DJBlu's code after 'demanding' that he releases it under GPL and then suggested mediaportal might sue DJBlu for modifying the tswriter (link)..:rolleyes::mad:
 

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i was spurred to action by the lack of source for the plugin discussed on this list and was asked if i minded my hard work being "ripped off"; so i felt that i should let people here know.
So you think djBlu used your code - is that what you're suggesting?

Either way, it works really well.

Rob
No Mr Kenyon stole DJBlu's code after 'demanding' that he releases it under GPL and then suggested mediaportal might sue DJBlu for modifying the tswriter (link)..:rolleyes::mad:

I made modifications to the tswriter and haven't released what I have written, Simon has done what I did and found code from the net and implemented it elsewhere. Nothing wrong in that.

Nice idea of the sky channel number to sid file, have you got an update process for when they shift the epg about?

There is an easier way to strip the spaces. Take a look at the dict file in the TSWriter rar. when the huffman decodes ignore the "!!!" it will speed your code up quite a bit.
 

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i was spurred to action by the lack of source for the plugin discussed on this list and was asked if i minded my hard work being "ripped off"; so i felt that i should let people here know.
So you think djBlu used your code - is that what you're suggesting?
Rob

not what i said

our code (this was not a solo effort) is (mainly) based on source code freely available on the net
all we did was package it up as an xmltv grabber

the reason for releasing it is because the licenses for the original software require it and more importantly so that others might hopefully contribute code/ideas/bug fixes and improve it
like for example, working out how Freesat broadcasts the EPG no. to channel mapping

i was spurred to action by the lack of source for the plugin discussed on this list and was asked if i minded my hard work being "ripped off"; so i felt that i should let people here know.
So you think djBlu used your code - is that what you're suggesting?

Either way, it works really well.

Rob
No Mr Kenyon stole DJBlu's code after 'demanding' that he releases it under GPL and then suggested mediaportal might sue DJBlu for modifying the tswriter (link)..:rolleyes::mad:

look, i "demanded" the code (as you put it) because i was entitled to under the licence terms of mediaportal.

he chose not to release it (wrong in my opinion - but who's counting)

rather than just sitting there and complaining - i did something about it and wrote a grabber which does pretty much what the plugin does

anyway, seeing as how he wouldn't release the source code - just how was i able to "steal" it.

in a film they would call that a "plot gap"

So you think djBlu used your code - is that what you're suggesting?

Either way, it works really well.

Rob
No Mr Kenyon stole DJBlu's code after 'demanding' that he releases it under GPL and then suggested mediaportal might sue DJBlu for modifying the tswriter (link)..:rolleyes::mad:

I made modifications to the tswriter and haven't released what I have written, Simon has done what I did and found code from the net and implemented it elsewhere. Nothing wrong in that.

Nice idea of the sky channel number to sid file, have you got an update process for when they shift the epg about?

There is an easier way to strip the spaces. Take a look at the dict file in the TSWriter rar. when the huffman decodes ignore the "!!!" it will speed your code up quite a bit.

the whole mapping to xmltv ids idea is not mine
this is what tv_grab_uk_rt essentially does

as for what to do when they shift the epg about. there is a proposal in the xmltv.org web site for a lineup file.
i plan to implement that. problem is that the definition of the lineup is static and what is required is a set of deltas which are timestamped; so you can get from what you have to what the current lineup is by applying the appropriate deltas. not completely thought it through. need to get the grabber working properly.

i really don't want to mess with the huffman tables too much. i do want to rationalise a lot of the code. it looks like frankenstein's monster at the moment.
 

CCob

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Hi DJBlu,

Any idea why ComedyCentral et al channels contain no EPG info. They did used to be called Paramount Comedy which did work, but have recently been renamed by Sky. I have done a channel scan to import the new channels but no EPG data is generated.

Edit:

Found the problem, the channel scan added the new Comdey Central channels, but left the paramount comedy channels present, since your EPG filler cross references service id, transport id and network id, it was finding the older paramount comedy channels first. Removing the paramount channels solved the problem. I guess this could be classed as a MP bug, really it should update the channel if the transport id, service id and network id match.

Thanks
 

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Hi DJBlu, same old question.... Can we still use your latest version with MediaPortal_1.0.2 ?

Kind regards,
Kev.
 

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    Going back to my post re Men & Motors EPG missing - it turned out M&M had utterly moved (different frequency, polarity, everything!) and for some reason the auto scan didn't pick that up. No idea why (that's another matter), but entering the tuning parameters manually has fixed it. Nothing to do with the EPG mod.

    Rob
     

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    Going back to my post re Men & Motors EPG missing - it turned out M&M had utterly moved (different frequency, polarity, everything!) and for some reason the auto scan didn't pick that up. No idea why (that's another matter), but entering the tuning parameters manually has fixed it. Nothing to do with the EPG mod.

    Rob

    Hi,

    The way channels are found to map the EPG is to get the following.

    SID - Service ID
    TID - Transport ID
    NID - Network ID

    If any one of these 3 changes then the EPG will not map hence the reason for the channel scans. If mediaportal isn't updating these then it needs to be highlighted as a bug.
     

    RobNorthcott

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    If any one of these 3 changes then the EPG will not map hence the reason for the channel scans. If mediaportal isn't updating these then it needs to be highlighted as a bug.
    It usually does work, but for some reason it completely failed to update M&M on the last few scans I've done. I wonder if it's on a new transponder that isn't in the scan list (it has been moved to a different frequency and polarity). Worked fine when I entered it manually.

    Anyway, as you say, it's a general MP/TVServer problem - I only mentioned it here because I thought it was an EPG problem earlier and just wanted to clarify it wasn't "your fault" :)

    Rob
     

    simonckenyon

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    patterns in the channelid

    Going back to my post re Men & Motors EPG missing - it turned out M&M had utterly moved (different frequency, polarity, everything!) and for some reason the auto scan didn't pick that up. No idea why (that's another matter), but entering the tuning parameters manually has fixed it. Nothing to do with the EPG mod.

    Rob

    Hi,

    The way channels are found to map the EPG is to get the following.

    SID - Service ID
    TID - Transport ID
    NID - Network ID

    If any one of these 3 changes then the EPG will not map hence the reason for the channel scans. If mediaportal isn't updating these then it needs to be highlighted as a bug.

    do you know how the channelid, sid/tid/nid and skynumber hang together
    we are trying to work out how the regional variations stuff is done

    we have noticed that the channelid seems to indicate region:

    there is a pattern to the channel ids
    125x is the irish stations
    162x is channel4
    2000+ is bbc (although no obvious pattern)
    33xx is channel4s other channels
    36xx is setanta
    6xxx is itv

    just wondering if you had any insight into this
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    simon
    PS channel id is (Data[p3 + 3] << 8) | Data[p3 + 4] in the BAT with descriptor 0xb1
    it is all in the code on sf.net/projects/tvgrabeit (to be renamed tvgrabdvbplus when sf get around to it)
     
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