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essdiem

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Hi,

I still cannot see Brit Shorts on 28.2E (that was what I had been scanning - I didn't realise the site I quoted was referring to another satellite). I have scanned several times since and still no sign of it.

Can anyone list the various parameters that I need to add the channel? Are other users' EPGs still getting data via this channel?

Cheers

Simon
 

RobNorthcott

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    I still cannot see Brit Shorts on 28.2E
    Can anyone list the various parameters that I need to add the channel? Are other users' EPGs still getting data via this channel?
    Pretty sure mine's still using BritShorts - I haven't changed anything since I set it up. I don't know how many channels have EPG on BritShorts and how many are on the special EPG radio channel though, so it may or may not be picking up the BritShorts stuff properly.

    I should be able to have a look at the channel parameters on my system tomorrow morning - if nobody has replied by then I'll post the details.

    Rob

    Edit: I happen to have a log from a few days ago with me. Here's the tuning details for Brit Shorts from the EPG log:
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    starting to grab DVBS:tv:Arqiva Brit Shorts Freq:11428000 ONID:59 TSID:2315 SID:3846 PMT:0x5AA FTA:True LCN:450 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotSet Polarisation:LinearH InnerFecRate:Rate2_3 DisEqc:None band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
    It seems to be getting quite a few channels of EPG from it.
     

    RobNorthcott

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    Here's my Brit Short settings. Hope it helps.

    Rob
     

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    essdiem

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    Hi Rob

    Still wasn't showing in a full channel scan. I could only get ITV HD on that frequency.

    I've used your channel settings on a spare channel that had been picked up and it is now working perfectly again.

    :D

    Cheers

    Simon
     

    sim1964

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    Hi Guys,
    Since istalling the new svn I've been having epg issues selected epg background audi and brit shorts but getting limited guide data. I think I have reception issues with epg background audio so that's my problem but according to the logs I'm only getting data for 13 channels:

    2010-01-13 17:27:42.646000 [DVB EPG timer]: Grab for card:#3 transponder #1/1 channel: Britshorts
    2010-01-13 17:27:42.647000 [DVB EPG timer]: EpgCard: grab epg on card: #3 transponder: #0 ch:GEO UK
    2010-01-13 17:28:02.853000 [DVB EPG timer]: EpgGrabbing: Start
    2010-01-13 17:28:02.868000 [DVB EPG timer]: EpgCard: card: 3 starting to grab DVBS:tv:Arquiva GEO UK Freq:11428000 ONID:59 TSID:2315 SID:3846 PMT:0x5AA FTA:True LCN:450 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotDefined Polarisation:LinearH InnerFecRate:Rate2_3 DisEqc:None band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
    2010-01-13 17:28:32.881000 [17]: EpgCard: allow grabbing for 30.013 seconds on card 3
    2010-01-13 17:29:02.899000 [17]: EpgCard: allow grabbing for 60.03 seconds on card 3
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.027000 [14]: dvb:mhw ready MHW 0 titles found
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.028000 [14]: dvb:dvb ready.EPG 13 channels
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.033000 [14]: Epg: card:3 received epg for 13 channels
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.047000 [EPG Update thread]: Epg: card:3 Updating database with new programs
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.056000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: no channel found for networkid:0x2 transportid:0x902 serviceid:0xCD14
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.071000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: AAG lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.115000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel AAG
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.283000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: price-drop tv lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.327000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel price-drop tv
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.343000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: Jackpot Games lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.380000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel Jackpot Games
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.395000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: 9XM lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.429000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel 9XM
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.446000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: OBE lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.481000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel OBE
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.501000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: Diva TV lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.535000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel Diva TV
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.550000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: ARY QTV lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.582000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel ARY QTV
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.597000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: Venus TV lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.631000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel Venus TV
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.681000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: speedauctiontv lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.717000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel speedauctiontv
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.729000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: Bloomberg lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.761000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel Bloomberg
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.773000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: Glory TV lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.803000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel Glory TV
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.813000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: KICC TV lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.844000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel KICC TV
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.854000 [EPG Update thread]: Epg: card:3 Finished updating the database.
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.857000 [EPG Update thread]: EpgGrabbing: Stop - user epg
    2010-01-13 17:31:06.569000 [10]: EPG: grabber stopped..


    Cheers Sim
     

    DJBlu

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    Hi Guys,
    Since istalling the new svn I've been having epg issues selected epg background audi and brit shorts but getting limited guide data. I think I have reception issues with epg background audio so that's my problem but according to the logs I'm only getting data for 13 channels:

    2010-01-13 17:27:42.646000 [DVB EPG timer]: Grab for card:#3 transponder #1/1 channel: Britshorts
    2010-01-13 17:27:42.647000 [DVB EPG timer]: EpgCard: grab epg on card: #3 transponder: #0 ch:GEO UK
    2010-01-13 17:28:02.853000 [DVB EPG timer]: EpgGrabbing: Start
    2010-01-13 17:28:02.868000 [DVB EPG timer]: EpgCard: card: 3 starting to grab DVBS:tv:Arquiva GEO UK Freq:11428000 ONID:59 TSID:2315 SID:3846 PMT:0x5AA FTA:True LCN:450 SymbolRate:27500 Modulation:ModNotDefined Polarisation:LinearH InnerFecRate:Rate2_3 DisEqc:None band:Universal Pilot:NotSet RollOff:NotSet
    2010-01-13 17:28:32.881000 [17]: EpgCard: allow grabbing for 30.013 seconds on card 3
    2010-01-13 17:29:02.899000 [17]: EpgCard: allow grabbing for 60.03 seconds on card 3
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.027000 [14]: dvb:mhw ready MHW 0 titles found
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.028000 [14]: dvb:dvb ready.EPG 13 channels
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.033000 [14]: Epg: card:3 received epg for 13 channels
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.047000 [EPG Update thread]: Epg: card:3 Updating database with new programs
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.056000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: no channel found for networkid:0x2 transportid:0x902 serviceid:0xCD14
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.071000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: AAG lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.115000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel AAG
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.283000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: price-drop tv lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.327000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel price-drop tv
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.343000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: Jackpot Games lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.380000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel Jackpot Games
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.395000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: 9XM lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.429000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel 9XM
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.446000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: OBE lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.481000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel OBE
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.501000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: Diva TV lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.535000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel Diva TV
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.550000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: ARY QTV lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.582000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel ARY QTV
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.597000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: Venus TV lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.631000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel Venus TV
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.681000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: speedauctiontv lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.717000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel speedauctiontv
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.729000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: Bloomberg lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.761000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel Bloomberg
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.773000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: Glory TV lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.803000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel Glory TV
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.813000 [EPG Update thread]: IdleEpgGrabber: KICC TV lastUpdate:01/01/2000 00:00:00
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.844000 [EPG Update thread]: - Inserted 2 epg entries for channel KICC TV
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.854000 [EPG Update thread]: Epg: card:3 Finished updating the database.
    2010-01-13 17:29:04.857000 [EPG Update thread]: EpgGrabbing: Stop - user epg
    2010-01-13 17:31:06.569000 [10]: EPG: grabber stopped..


    Cheers Sim

    Arquiva GEO UK?

    This isn't Brit Shorts.

    You need to have this channel selected with no others selected in the TV EPG settings. What your log shows is the grab for the now and next of all the channels on the same transponder as Arquiva GEO UK.
     

    sim1964

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    Sorry it 's a result of me following up on a suggestion from earlier in the thread. I edited a spare channel with all the tuning details from brit shorts as supplied on the thread.
    Results were the same as with the original scanned version but without doing a new scan and loosing all my dvb-t data i could not show log for the proper version. :)
     

    Ragnarok666

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    I dont think (correct me if im wrong) the 'grab whilst timeshifting' option is relevant to the sky epg. I think sky only send the details for the current and next program on the individual channels, and not a full listing.

    Sky do send EPG data on every transponder for all channels however it is only the Titles and not the Summaries.

    Summaries are there too for now and next along side the channel.

    The only real annoyance left is that it's the EPG data along side the channel is read by TV server at all ( like all other DVB app's do automatically) It's also somewhere in that data that info is sent to the sky+ box that tells it when a program is over running or running late to change the recording to match.

    Series Link would be nice but Often the data in the EPG is bad and it messes up even on a sky box media portal has Almost as good a thing in it's own advanced recording setting which works well, most of the time. Series Link isn't so important.
     

    DJBlu

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    I dont think (correct me if im wrong) the 'grab whilst timeshifting' option is relevant to the sky epg. I think sky only send the details for the current and next program on the individual channels, and not a full listing.

    Sky do send EPG data on every transponder for all channels however it is only the Titles and not the Summaries.

    Summaries are there too for now and next along side the channel.

    The only real annoyance left is that it's the EPG data along side the channel is read by TV server at all ( like all other DVB app's do automatically) It's also somewhere in that data that info is sent to the sky+ box that tells it when a program is over running or running late to change the recording to match.

    Series Link would be nice but Often the data in the EPG is bad and it messes up even on a sky box media portal has Almost as good a thing in it's own advanced recording setting which works well, most of the time. Series Link isn't so important.

    Now and Next is always carried as it has to be. It is DVB Standard. This will give you the data for the transponder of the channel you are tuned to.

    What I was on about was the details like when you press up and down on a sky remote you get the programs that are coming on in the next 6-7 hours. This gives you the titles data for all sky channels for about 6-7 hours.

    Have you tried the "update EPG whilst timeshifting"? The timeout of 2 mins should be sufficient. This will update anychanges to channels that are over running.
     
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