Startup issues (1 Viewer)

[ErickTreetops]

Ok...check on the USB stick.
That's not the external HD, I had the USB stick in the PC ready to download the MP Dump files.
it wasn't inserted or removed until after all the tests were completed.
I get the same issues whether its there or not.

Ok..so correct me if I am wrong because I can't find it in the wiki. I assumed the "TV on" button was required to be "on" so that I could watch TV.
Does it in fact start "Time Shifting" when selected and is NOT required to be on to watch full screen TV ?

If it's the first option then I can see why MP gets it's knickers in a knot when I just kill it.
If it's is required to watch TV then it would appear that I would need to back out of watching a TV channel. first then deselect the "TV on" button and then put the PC to sleep. This would seem a bit awkward if required and I would need me to program my remote (doubt if the power off button can be programmed).

So I'm really hoping that that I don't need "TV on" to just watch TV without time shifting.

In regards to the Power Scheduler I removed it to see if it would reduced the latency between pc wake up and station selection.
I can always put it back later.

Check again on the Tuner detection setting. I was one TAB out. I will fix that tonight .
I'll try testing tonight on the suggestion and let you know.

Thanks for the input.

 

[mm1352000]

Ok...check on the USB stick.
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I get the same issues whether its there or not.

Okay... but again, the way you say "I get the same issues..." sounds like this (this = "MP starts up, but no plugins of any kind are loaded..." etc.) has happened more than once. I asked you about this before, but you didn't reply. Please confirm: yes or no. Has it happened more than once or not? I'm asking this because if it only happened once, it doesn't seem worth worrying about too much. On the other hand, if it has happened more than once, and is continuing to happen on a regular basis, then that's obviously something that needs to be sorted out.

Ok..so correct me if I am wrong because I can't find it in the wiki. I assumed the "TV on" button was required to be "on" so that I could watch TV.

To me that seems an odd way of putting it... but yes the "TV on" button should be on to watch TV.

The button is a simple on/off button for TV.
Turn the button on => TV will start.
Turn the button off => TV will stop.

If you still don't understand, I suggest you try it and see what it does.

By the way, here's what the wiki says:
http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/14_Using_MediaPortal/3_TV#Using_TV

Does it in fact start "Time Shifting" when selected and is NOT required to be on to watch full screen TV ?

No. With MediaPortal you can't disable time-shifting. TV is either on (and you're timeshifting)... or it's off.

If it's the first option then I can see why MP gets it's knickers in a knot when I just kill it.
If it's is required to watch TV then it would appear that I would need to back out of watching a TV channel. first then deselect the "TV on" button and then put the PC to sleep. This would seem a bit awkward if required and I would need me to program my remote (doubt if the power off button can be programmed).

This "awkward" "back out" that you described should be as simple as pressing "stop" on your remote (or "b" on a keyboard) before pressing "power" (or whatever it is that you do.

If you insist that you want to turn off TV with one button press then I guess you will have to figure out how to program your remote.
If you can't program your remote power button then perhaps a [free] tool like EventGhost can help you? It can translate one event (eg. pressing the power button) into multiple events (eg. "stop" + "power off"), and is context aware (so you can have the power button do one thing when power is already off, and another thing when power is on). Very flexible and powerful. I highly recommend it.

 

[ErickTreetops]

yes MP has loaded without a single plugin at least twice and needed to be shutdown through the task manager. It was non responsive to the remote or keyboard.

I removed the Tuner detection delay andperformed a 90 second shutdown following your instructions.
i.e. back to TV option form , deselect "TV on" then put PC to sleep.
On restart MP returns to the TV option forum and "TV on" is not selected.
I tried selecting it but nothing happened for about 6 seconds then TV picture showed up.

Turned the system off completely, did a cold restart. MP started up went straight into Full screen TV mode.

Not sure now but it appears to be the tv service not getting up fast enough. PC has plenty of grunt and on wake up doesn't need to reload the plugins.

 

[mm1352000]

yes MP has loaded without a single plugin at least twice and needed to be shutdown through the task manager. It was non responsive to the remote or keyboard.

Okay.
If this happens again please post fresh log files, because I can't see anything else that might be the cause in the log files you already posted.
Also, I should say that the existing logs seem to show plugins being loaded:
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[2015-05-27 18:49:06,738] [Log ] [MPMain ] [DEBUG] - PluginManager: Begin loading '\windows\MP-TVSeries.dll' (non threaded)
[2015-05-27 18:49:06,769] [Log ] [MPMain ] [INFO ] - PluginManager: 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Team MediaPortal\MediaPortal\Plugins\windows\MP-TVSeries.dll' file version: 4.2.2.2151
[2015-05-27 18:49:08,472] [Log ] [MPMain ] [DEBUG] - PluginManager: End loading '\windows\MP-TVSeries.dll' (1734.5128 ms running time)[/collapse]

So, a screenshot (alt + print screen, or F12) would be helpful too.

I removed the Tuner detection delay...

Can you please post the log files - client (watchdog option 3) and server again - so I can see exactly what happened. Descriptions are good, but they're not going to be sufficient for identifying and solving the problem.

 

[ErickTreetops]

Ok..sorry for the delay but I have been a bit busy.
Since last I have made one small change in that I have told Windows PCIe power setting never to let it sleep.
This is my TV tuner card.
I have not seen the "no available card" error since then.

I have also restored the power plugin.
I think all the defaults are there.
the only thing which didn't look the same as per the wiki was the way the HTPC is "standby prevented by.

My original issue remains.
Regardless of wether I simply press the remote Off button and shut the HTPC off (sleep mode)
or if wether I back out of watching TV and deselect the "TV on" button first and then switch things off.
When the PC is woken up it only ever returns to this.

I've attached two log zip files. The first is the one where I back out of watching TV before switching the HTPC off the second is where I switch it off while watching the TV channel.

 

[ErickTreetops]

No one seems to be replying. l still have the original issue in that MP ignores the "Show last active module when starting/resuming from standby" option. Is there some other option that must also be set?
I noticed that if i have a mouse to close the full screen tv session using the top bar X (close) option and restart MP it happily opens back in full TV screen mode.
If I go into standby on my HTPC does it opens to the menu screen for selecting the TV and only after some seconds can i select a tv channel to watch.

 

[CyberSimian]

l still have the original issue in that MP ignores the "Show last active module when starting/resuming from standby" option. Is there some other option that must also be set?

Have you enabled one or both of the following settings in "MediaPortal Configuration":

"Turn on TV"
"Directly show fullscreen TV"

Look at the following page in the Wiki; it shows the "General settings" tab with those two options in the "When entering the TV screen" box:

http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_...n/MediaPortal_Configuration/22_TV/1_TV_Client

-- from CyberSimian in the UK

 

[ErickTreetops]

Yes those options are set correctly

I did a number of tests and the results are not consistent.
Depending on how i navigate to watch TV the depends what i get when i switch in back on
Here are the sequence of events and what I get
1.

Start MP -> go to TV Guide -> watch TV -> turn off MP using "x" on top menu.

Restart MP opens only into the TV guide.

2
MP Start -> TV (main) -> watch TV -> turn MP off using close window "X" on top menu bar as before
Restart MP -> Full screen TV (I believe this is what is always meant to do)

So example 1 is wrong but 2 is right.

3
start MP -> Go To TV Guide -> start watching full screen tv -> Turn system off (i.e. go into sleep mode)
Wait 60 seconds
Turn on HTPC (i.e. wake from sleep)
Main TV window comes up "TV on" is NOT selected ( does not enter full screen)

4
Already watching TV
Select TV guide -> tun off HTPC (i.e. go to sleep)
Wait 60 seconds -> turn on HTPC
MP wakes into TV Guide ( ie. it remembers to go back to tv guide after resume)

Examples 1 and 3 I believe are INCORRECT and not what it is meant to do .
Examples 2 and 4 I believe are correct and what I believe it should do.

The only difference in 1 and 3 is that MP/TV plugin must reconnect with the TV service.
Not sure why this would be the case on a resume as i would suspect service and connection is never cutoff when it goes to sleep. I'm not an expert in reading the logs but it does behave differently waking up then when you first start MP.
I didn't see that full tv screen command being executed like when MP starts up from scratch.

Anyone have any ideas ?
Is something different in win8.1 64bit.
Is anyone with the same o/s having the same experience ?