Support for .RAW image format? | Page 2

Discussion in 'View Pictures' started by PediaMortal, January 6, 2007.

  1. bunker12

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    You can look at dcraw, a c program supporting roughly all "raw" formats output by digital cameras, and being actively maintained.
    Decoding raw digital photos in Linux



    Personally I'd like to see support for "raw" images somehow in MediaPortal, with thumbnails. I can live without meta-data but I'd like to see some of that too. As a user I don't care as much wether it's integrated in MP or a supporting program.

    As far as reasons to support "raw" images, the main one is to me what has been said previously; I shoot in raw because it is an advantage for the post-processing. I can for example change color temperature (tone?) without any loss in quality. Converting to jpg DOES take time and a lot more hard-drive space. Typically a good quality jpg comes in at about 70-90 % of the original raw image from my Canon EOS DSLR.
     
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  3. ghanz

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    I totally agree, personally I would like to see .orf. Since every main manufacturer provides a codec for free, it must be possible to use that codec to provide support for raw images in MP.
     
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    A much more usefull feature to me would be the possibility to read Adobe Lightroom databases, possibly using the lightroom engine to render to screen.

    Since I shoot all my Canon DSLR photos in raw + jpg (neglible storage overhead), I always have access to both. For processing, I use Lightroom with nice tags and non-destructive editing. For my living-room I must either render all files as jpg, or run a 2nd copy of lightroom.

    Now, space requirements for a specially rendered jpg collection for a 1366x768 lcd-tv isnt all that much, but it is an extra step.

    -k
     
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    Sorry but I don't agree with you on several points.

    1. The storage overhead for shooting in jpg as well as raw is nowhere nere negligble. Adding 60-80% extra storage is a lot.
    2. The standard for metadata is IPTC-tags at the moment. Lightroom is fully capable of updating your files with that data. If MediaPortal supports reading IPTC-tags it could support more photo-editing and/or -managing software than Lightroom. In fact, just about all the major ones I guess.
    3. Re-using an existing application's database has three problems:
    a) Future compatibility. If for example Adobe changes the database format a little so that MP can't read it we'd be stuck waiting for an updated version of MediaPortal.
    b) Locks users into having to use one single software for the photo library management.
    c) Non-standard solution. The standard on photo-sites and for editing and library-management software is that you create your own database and import any metadata in the actual images.

    Obviously you're right that creating jpgs when shooting saves you the conversion part though, but I wouldn't want an MP implementation forcing the users to do that. And jpgs are already supported so all You would really need is a meta-data reader. If you'd just share your folder with your camera jpgs and export your tags to those files from Lightroom, you'd be all set then.

    @ghanz
    Codecs for raw decoding is a Vista feature. There's no such functionality in XP.

    If MediaPortal used dcraw, it could support orf (Olympus) and just about any other raw file format. The Wikipedia article on raw images has a couple more links to libraries that could be used freely.
    Raw image format - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  6. Adam West

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    I would like this feature in MP.
    I'm afraid I can't help in any way as I have no clue about writing script but would like to show support for anyone that fancies doing a plugin for it
     
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    I would also like to see .RAW support in MediaPortal.

    I am using my HTPC as a backup server so to be able to see the pictures in my database would be great for me and even more so for the wife.

    As most photographers shoot in .RAW format the only conversion I do is in post processing when printing or uploading to the FTP. I am currently using Lightroom and their is no need to save any pictures in TIFF or JPEG as the Lightroom database saves any processing changes.

    My database is at nearly 100GB and since the announcement of the 5D markII it's only getting bigger so any additional bloat of other file formats is not wanted.

    Has anyone else tried to integrate Microsoft RAW viewer as you would use other plugins to play music?
     
  8. Adam West

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    No but thats a good idea. I'll give it a go
     
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    Just another "me too" on this - I shoot RAW on my Sony camera (.ARW format) and the ability for MP to display these would be useful
     
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    If anyone figures this out, I would be very interested too :)
     
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    I would love RAW support as well. I shoot all my pictures in raw and having to convert them to jpeg every time after I have a shooting session would just be a royal pain in the a$$... there are quite a few open source apps out there that support raw formats, don't think it should be too difficult to integrate the decoders into MP.
     
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