TITANIUS 1.7.0.0 (18-07-2015) Now with a fresh new look! (2 Viewers)

[powermarcel10]

Could it be that the submenus option is missing?

No its still there! But you have to enter them now using the menu button on the remote! On keyboard this is normally F9.

 

[radical]

Thank you. Sorry for my stupid question. I overread it in your changelog.

 

[Brudertac]

@powermarcel10
Grats to the new Version! Is there a way that you insert an option on what happens if the user hit Enter on the TV? Right now LiveTV starts but i would like to see the EPG first.
It would be perfect if there were a Option to change that behaviour in the Settings...

Thanks!!!

 

[CypherMK]

Could it be that the submenus option is missing?

No its still there! But you have to enter them now using the menu button on the remote! On keyboard this is normally F9.

Maybe make this a configurable option? I like the old way better.

 

[emphatic]

Nice release!

Emph

 

[powermarcel10]

@powermarcel10
Grats to the new Version! Is there a way that you insert an option on what happens if the user hit Enter on the TV? Right now LiveTV starts but i would like to see the EPG first.
It would be perfect if there were a Option to change that behaviour in the Settings...

Thanks!!!

Let me think about that.

Could it be that the submenus option is missing?

No its still there! But you have to enter them now using the menu button on the remote! On keyboard this is normally F9.

Maybe make this a configurable option? I like the old way better.

I'm sure you get used to it! I'm not going to make it as an option as that requeres a lot of double code. I really think that the way it is now makes more sense...

I hope you can life with it!

 

[HTPCSourcer]

Hi Marcel,

Thank you for the new release. (Sadly the GUI errors are stlil being thrown )

The one thing that constitutes quite a change is the fact that you now need to press Menu/F9 in order to access the submenus. There is pro and con to this change, yet I still have issues geting used to this, not to speak to my wife.

I don't know if that's possible, but I could imagine the following: when you navigate onto a tile and press OK, you will be immediately directed to he main underlying function, e.g. TV. If you stay on that tile for a configurable time and then only press OK on the remote, the submenu opens.

regards,
HTPC_Sourcer

 

[powermarcel10]

Hi Marcel,

Thank you for the new release. (Sadly the GUI errors are stlil being thrown )

The one thing that constitutes quite a change is the fact that you now need to press Menu/F9 in order to access the submenus. There is pro and con to this change, yet I still have issues geting used to this, not to speak to my wife.

I don't know if that's possible, but I could imagine the following: when you navigate onto a tile and press OK, you will be immediately directed to he main underlying function, e.g. TV. If you stay on that tile for a configurable time and then only press OK on the remote, the submenu opens.

regards,
HTPC_Sourcer

Like I said before I think, those "errors" are no real errors. It just means that there are supported ID's (functions) that are not used by this specific skin. It's more a hint, no real error.

I think it makes much more sense that you press the menu button, when you want to open a (sub)menu. That's the whole reason it is called a "menu button" . Offcourse you have to get used to it. Me 2. But on longer terms it makes more sense. Now you can choose if you want to go directly to tv, or enter the menu. If you want to go directly to tv by example, it will "save" one click. If you want to open the menu, it's still the same as before, but you don't press enter but F9. I don't see the real problem to be honest..

But like I said, I understand that it will take some time before you get used to it.. Let's give it a shot for some time and see how it's working out.

 

[HTPCSourcer]

Like I said before I think, those "errors" are no real errors. It just means that there are supported ID's (functions) that are not used by this specific skin. It's more a hint, no real error.

Yes, but it is "spamming" the error log. Other skins don't have the problem, so something in your xml's must lead to this error being logged and it would be nice to be able to get rid of it.

Now you can choose if you want to go directly to tv, or enter the menu. If you want to go directly to tv by example, it will "save" one click. If you want to open the menu, it's still the same as before, but you don't press enter but F9. I don't see the real problem to be honest..

The skin behavior differs when you are using a mouse. When you hover over the tile and then click, you often enter the submenu and not TV. There is also some inconsistency about the three horizontal lines (submenu present), which sometimes are showing and sometimes not.

In short; This is a change where I would really have appreciated being asked about my user's opinion first. It may suit your needs, but it much less suits mine. I do not always want to directly enter TV, actually much more often I would like to go to EPG or Recordings first. Now, when I click I am in full screen TV, which I have to stop first, navigate back and try again. Clicks saved? Not really...

I think it makes much more sense that you press the menu button, when you want to open a (sub)menu.

It's not really ergonomic for me. The main button of a remote is OK. Now you need to press "Menu" first, and then OK, so your thumb has to move.

But that' just my opinion and I may not be representative. You could open a poll and ask user's view whether they like, dislike or are indifferent about this new way.

 

[powermarcel10]

Yes, but it is "spamming" the error log. Other skins don't have the problem, so something in your xml's must lead to this error being logged and it would be nice to be able to get rid of it.

Allright, I will see what I can do here..

The skin behavior differs when you are using a mouse. When you hover over the tile and then click, you often enter the submenu and not TV. There is also some inconsistency about the three horizontal lines (submenu present), which sometimes are showing and sometimes not.

This skin, and MP in general is not ment to be used with a mouse.. If it work, it's nice, but I don't leave things that can improve the experience when using a remote. Can you explain the inconsistency problem with the submenu image? I have had a look to that allready and I thought that everything was working fine, but if not, please let me know.

n short; This is a change where I would really have appreciated being asked about my user's opinion first. It may suit your needs, but it much less suits mine. I do not always want to directly enter TV, actually much more often I would like to go to EPG or Recordings first. Now, when I click I am in full screen TV, which I have to stop first, navigate back and try again. Clicks saved? Not really...

I added allready a lot of user settings so people can personize the skin. But for some features, I have to make a decision. If you want to go to directly to tv, it saves an enter for sure. If not? The key presses are the same. Only thing that has been changed is the specific button. I'm sorry but I really think you have to try it for some days/weeks and than report again. I'm really doing my best to make this skin better for as many people as possible, sad to hear that you are not one of them..

It's not really ergonomic for me. The main button of a remote is OK. Now you need to press "Menu" first, and then OK, so your thumb has to move.

I don't know what kind of remote you're using, but I'm using an imon remote pad, where I have configured the menu button almost left from the enter button. Is that not something that you can do to, to make it more ergonomic for you fingers?


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