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<blockquote data-quote="mm1352000" data-source="post: 829007" data-attributes="member: 82144"><p>Thanks everyone for testing! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p>*sigh* - I was hoping everything would just work.</p><p></p><p>[USER=115717]aat[/USER]:</p><p></p><p>Excellent! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Also excellent! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Do you have logs to show this? If the menu works on the H7 then theoretically it should also work on the Cinergy. There is one small thing that could possibly cause this. It would be a 5 second check if you can post the tv.log file. Copy-paste from RDP would be okay. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>[USER=112434]ogir_xx[/USER]:</p><p></p><p>You can't access a CI menu with M***I. The menu is built into the CAM firmware. Without a CAM you can't have a menu to enter. You can still have a menu with a CAM that doesn't have a smartcard inserted. Some entries or information might be missing.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>I can't explain the unknown errors without the MP client logs - something strange was happening there. To expand a little: TV Server was successfully tuning and then [I think] being told to stop timeshifting by the MP client. It might be a combination of changes that I've made + M****.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I have the sneaking suspicion that the fix that causes the long term stability for channel changing is causing the problems with the scan. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p>paalkr, aat: did you test a full scan?</p><p> </p><p>[USER=78371]paalkr[/USER]:</p><p></p><p>Well that is good. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think the difference between the failure here for you and the success for aat could be down to the CAM. In the case of the AD-TP300 (I think you tested that first?) it looks like the CAM was still being initialised by the tuner driver when you tried to enter the menu:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm still learning what the CI and MMI states mean though - there is no good documentation from Twinhan or anyone else. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>One point: I notice in the logs that you tried to enter the menu several times for each tuner within 10 seconds. The menu can take quite a long time to show - sometimes 10 or 15 seconds depending on the CAM and whether the tuner driver has finished initialising the CI. Please try again and give a little more time for the menu to show. If it doesn't show after 30 seconds then that would be a problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is something I'm not able to fully explain. The exception is here:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This same kind of exception actually happened several times. I wonder: are you using a static or dynamic IP address on the server, and when you performed the test was it after resuming from standby?</p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>I know what you mean. I think the main thing about the CAM menu is not the menu itself but the notifications from the CAM about decrypt failures. Having said that, on some CAMs you can do really useful things with it like turn multidecrypt on/off or enable/disable child protection etc. Anyhow, that is my opinion. Other people seem to really like the feature. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Feedback noted. The team are aware that TV Server is missing the ability to timeshift and wait for the pairing signal and the stream to become clear. Enabling EPG grabbing is a very clever work-around (I will suggest that to other people <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />) however in the future I would really like to find a better way to do this.</p><p></p><p>mm</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mm1352000, post: 829007, member: 82144"] Thanks everyone for testing! :thx: *sigh* - I was hoping everything would just work. [USER=115717]aat[/USER]: Excellent! :) Also excellent! :) Do you have logs to show this? If the menu works on the H7 then theoretically it should also work on the Cinergy. There is one small thing that could possibly cause this. It would be a 5 second check if you can post the tv.log file. Copy-paste from RDP would be okay. :) [USER=112434]ogir_xx[/USER]: You can't access a CI menu with M***I. The menu is built into the CAM firmware. Without a CAM you can't have a menu to enter. You can still have a menu with a CAM that doesn't have a smartcard inserted. Some entries or information might be missing. I can't explain the unknown errors without the MP client logs - something strange was happening there. To expand a little: TV Server was successfully tuning and then [I think] being told to stop timeshifting by the MP client. It might be a combination of changes that I've made + M****. I have the sneaking suspicion that the fix that causes the long term stability for channel changing is causing the problems with the scan. :( paalkr, aat: did you test a full scan? [USER=78371]paalkr[/USER]: Well that is good. :) I think the difference between the failure here for you and the success for aat could be down to the CAM. In the case of the AD-TP300 (I think you tested that first?) it looks like the CAM was still being initialised by the tuner driver when you tried to enter the menu: I'm still learning what the CI and MMI states mean though - there is no good documentation from Twinhan or anyone else. :( One point: I notice in the logs that you tried to enter the menu several times for each tuner within 10 seconds. The menu can take quite a long time to show - sometimes 10 or 15 seconds depending on the CAM and whether the tuner driver has finished initialising the CI. Please try again and give a little more time for the menu to show. If it doesn't show after 30 seconds then that would be a problem. This is something I'm not able to fully explain. The exception is here: This same kind of exception actually happened several times. I wonder: are you using a static or dynamic IP address on the server, and when you performed the test was it after resuming from standby? :) I know what you mean. I think the main thing about the CAM menu is not the menu itself but the notifications from the CAM about decrypt failures. Having said that, on some CAMs you can do really useful things with it like turn multidecrypt on/off or enable/disable child protection etc. Anyhow, that is my opinion. Other people seem to really like the feature. :) Feedback noted. The team are aware that TV Server is missing the ability to timeshift and wait for the pairing signal and the stream to become clear. Enabling EPG grabbing is a very clever work-around (I will suggest that to other people :)) however in the future I would really like to find a better way to do this. mm [/QUOTE]
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