[EPG] / [TV] : Program Guide doesn't allow to make larger steps in the future like before (1 Viewer)

[arneman]

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First of all I want to thank the dev team for creating this nice program.

TV Program Guide: In Alpha you could make larger steps forward (in the future) in the program guide by using "Forward" button (the one you hit when you want to play a movie at 2x, 4 x ... speed). That also works while TV or record is running in the background. But in Beta it leads to an increasing playbackspeed of the video in the background... And I could not reach the arrows in the upper left corner to switch the days by remote control (with UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT buttons). Bad usability when trying to record a movie in a few days ...

Regards

Arne

 

[infinite.loop]

And I could not reach the arrows in the upper left corner to switch the days by remote control (with UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT buttons)

I have no problem with that. Selecting them works nicely in current Beta.

The way the "fast forward" keys worked before while watching TV/playing videos were an abuse.
The current behaviour is correct.

 

[pilehave]

And I could not reach the arrows in the upper left corner to switch the days by remote control (with UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT buttons)

I have no problem with that. Selecting them works nicely in current Beta.

The way the "fast forward" keys worked before while watching TV/playing videos were an abuse.
The current behaviour is correct.

Does this mean that you now change the channel by using the channel up/down key when TV is in a window? Or does this only concern ffw and rew? Ch up/down is also used for "page up" and "page down" in listelements... Either way the GUI should be consistent so that any key that works in fullscreen should work in windowed mode, or none at all.

Well, that's my pov at least

 

[infinite.loop]

And I could not reach the arrows in the upper left corner to switch the days by remote control (with UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT buttons)

I have no problem with that. Selecting them works nicely in current Beta.

The way the "fast forward" keys worked before while watching TV/playing videos were an abuse.
The current behaviour is correct.

Does this mean that you now change the channel by using the channel up/down key when TV is in a window?

It actually should. If not, then this is a bug.

 

[tourettes]

I have no problem with that. Selecting them works nicely in current Beta.

The way the "fast forward" keys worked before while watching TV/playing videos were an abuse.
The current behaviour is correct.

Does this mean that you now change the channel by using the channel up/down key when TV is in a window?

It actually should. If not, then this is a bug.

I would say it is a positive bug Just think about the MCE remote and using the alternative EPG layout (one channel list mode). In that changing the next page after you have read the current one will be a huge usability issue.

 

[pilehave]

Does this mean that you now change the channel by using the channel up/down key when TV is in a window?

It actually should. If not, then this is a bug.

I would say it is a positive bug Just think about the MCE remote and using the alternative EPG layout (one channel list mode). In that changing the next page after you have read the current one will be a huge usability issue.

But if this is true, then can you no longer navigate a list with what I call "page up/down" (well, you know, page jumps within a list)? If I have 3000 mp3-files and I have to press 1500 times on arrow-down to get to the middle I'm gonna have sore thumbs

 

[arneman]

If this is "no bug", I'm wondering why it worked with 1.1 Alpha in the way the MP Manual describes it : KeyboardShortcuts_My_TV - MediaPortal Manual Documentation and with 1.1 Beta it doesn't work anymore....

The number of buttons on remote controls are limited. I think it is not usefull to use fast forward / backward while the video is displayed in a very small window in the corner and TV Guide is open. F7 and F8 (next / previous channel) is still working in TV Guide in the way the manual describes it. So I think F5 and F6 should work, too.

I made some test:

1)
TV windowed in background
TV Guide open
"F5" or "F6" causes fast foward

2)
TV off
TV Guide open
"F5" or "F6" moves time windows forward or backward (as described in MP Manual, see: MP WIKI

Maybe you now understand what I mean. And it is really usefull to use these Keys for this functions when the TV Guide is open - because of limited buttons on remote controls AND the fact, that is not useful to use fast forward / backward and channel UP / Down while the tv guide is on nd the video is so small in the corner...

So this is definitely a bug if you compare it with the manual.

Regards

Arne

EDIT: Next Day / Previous Day Buttons are accessible via "Arrow" keys. So this is no problem, my mistake, Sorry. But this was not the topic of this thread

 

[kkendall]

I agree with arneman

When tv in MP is in a small window in the corner/playing in the background it implies that you are doing something other than watching tv, so the buttons on the remote should not relate to tv watching in that case.

So in the EPG for instance, ff and fr should always act the same, wether you are playing tv in the background or not. That seems to me the most logical way to go. Otherwise it gets very confusing...

EDIT: Let's not confuse MP fullscreen and windowed mode with TV fullscreen and windowed mode here.
Arneman is talking about MP in fullscreen, with TV in the lower left corner (windowed/background)
It seems some are talking about MP in fullscreen and windowed mode.

 

[pilehave]

Yeah...what I mean with "TV in a window" is fullscreen MP with the small preview window (as in MyHome or in EPG).

 

[arneman]

I'm happy to get support from you guys

Can someone correct the "No Bug" mark of this thread to a "Bug" mark, that the devs pay attention to it (again)?