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Audio!  aha i think this could turn out to be completely my fault. i actually havent been connecting the audio in up to this point just the video lead. I have also not used i think the internal audio link cable to connect the card to the motherboard. I have plugged the audio into the mic input and get sound but still fails on the graph but possibly because it's expecting the audio to come in through the dtv card. does make sense as the source of the problem?