6 months trying, but no luck. Please help. (4 Viewers)

[MrSensitive]

You may be right when you tell me to format but I wonder what sort of software this is that only works when installed on a freshly installed OS. If I had to do that for every program I install,I´d just go crazy.

I should probably not be replying anymore, but I can't resist it

A Mediacenter should be considered a dedicated machine that is sitting under your TV, or in a closet.. it's only purpose is to provide the functionality required to navigate and play Your media..
Video Editing software does not belong there.. I bet the editing software has installed specific filters that cause interference with MP..

I work in an IT environment, and we too have dedicated machines to do specific tasks, if a server is going to be used for another purpose, the first thing we do is format that machine before Exchange, or SQL server or any other software is installed, Why? because this is the only way for us to be sure that it will work as expected.. there were times when we didn't do this, and we spent hours and hours (never six months though.. :roll: ) on MSDN trying to find out why the hell SQL Server refused to authenticate Administrators...

my suggestion.. keep your video editing station, and if you are really ready to use a mediacenter..go out and buy a machine to do the job...

 

[moviebuff03]

I don't wish to get embroiled in a slanging match, but wish to add my support to the programmers of MP.

Yes, like Ethanx I have at points utterly dispaired of MP out of frustration. I would however never slag off the awesome concept of MPs abilities and there has been daily updates to eradicate many problems and the sheer amount of time put in by the programmers, who are also willing to take on board suggestions of change. Which software manufacturer would do that, even for a paid product?

At one point, I had huge troubles getting MP to run smoothly, most of which was actually caused by driver conflicts, codecs etc, and turned out not to be MP software related at all. I am almost at a point where MP is stable enough to leave 24/7 and not worry about system crashes.

Any newbies reading this, persevere as it will be worth it. The forums are a great way of gaining further knowledge and reading about exciting new plans for MP.

Keep up the good work guys!

 

[ethanx]

You may be right when you tell me to format but I wonder what sort of software this is that only works when installed on a freshly installed OS. If I had to do that for every program I install,I´d just go crazy.

I should probably not be replying anymore, but I can't resist it

A Mediacenter should be considered a dedicated machine that is sitting under your TV, or in a closet.. it's only purpose is to provide the functionality required to navigate and play Your media..
Video Editing software does not belong there.. I bet the editing software has installed specific filters that cause interference with MP..

I work in an IT environment, and we too have dedicated machines to do specific tasks, if a server is going to be used for another purpose, the first thing we do is format that machine before Exchange, or SQL server or any other software is installed, Why? because this is the only way for us to be sure that it will work as expected.. there were times when we didn't do this, and we spent hours and hours (never six months though.. :roll: ) on MSDN trying to find out why the hell SQL Server refused to authenticate Administrators...

my suggestion.. keep your video editing station, and if you are really ready to use a mediacenter..go out and buy a machine to do the job...

You´re right when you say a mediacenter should be considered as a dedicated machine, that´s why microsoft is shipping MCE 2005 along with the hardware, however I though the whole concept of MP was completely different: just software that could be installed on any system meeting all the minimum requirements, I see I was wrong so, what´s the point of getting a new machine just to have MP? If I purchased a dedicated one I´d simply have MCE 2005, which, at least, is stable and reliable.
Well. I´m gonna try and format but I wonder if I manage to get it work, what happens next? you cant even touch the system, just in case MP refuses to work again?
As for the daily CVS, I should say that when something was fixed, next time you installed a new update everything got fucked up again. For example: after installing one of them, you could choose the recording path, MP would take over IR.exe but once you were done with MP it would set it free. Then, after another update all what had been improved would simply disappear.
And, please, dont compare a server to a home workstation, because, in my opinion, they dont have much in common.
Besides, I think all those people using MP are really contributing to the project by testing the software continuosly, that way developers realize about the endless bugs MP seems to have. Let´s see how things go when, eventually, they release the finished version.
Anyway, thanks for all the comments

 

[MrSensitive]

And, please, dont compare a server to a home workstation, because, in my opinion, they dont have much in common.
Besides, I think all those people using MP are really contributing to the project by testing the software continuosly, that way developers realize about the endless bugs MP seems to have. Let´s see how things go when, eventually, they release the finished version.
Anyway, thanks for all the comments

I consider my HTPC to ba a higly customizable appliance, and i think of it to be more a server than a workstation..
really, i'm not going to type letters on it, nor do I surf the web with it, not even with the new browser plugin..
my HTPC has one purpose, Play media..
Exchnage has one purpose, manage email
SQL Server has one purpose: host and manage data..

see the similarities?

anyway, enough said, I wish you the best of luck when you reinstall Your sytem...

 

[Callifo]

You´re right when you say a mediacenter should be considered as a dedicated machine, that´s why microsoft is shipping MCE 2005 along with the hardware, however I though the whole concept of MP was completely different: just software that could be installed on any system meeting all the minimum requirements, I see I was wrong so, what´s the point of getting a new machine just to have MP? If I purchased a dedicated one I´d simply have MCE 2005, which, at least, is stable and reliable.
Well. I´m gonna try and format but I wonder if I manage to get it work, what happens next? you cant even touch the system, just in case MP refuses to work again?

That is one problem developers here face, since its not installed on a system they specifically designed (unlike MCE2005), they cant guarantee its gonna work perfectly. Anything a user does on his/her machine could damage codec functionality, the .net install or anything (eg using a small nLite Winxp install breaks MP as it removes required applications). Much less than half of the problems we see on the forums here are actual bugs, the rest are problems on the user's system. Since in this case a lot of your problems are unique to you, its the most common assumption that the problem is on your end (hence why we try and duplicate bugs in the test group). I have both my dedicated MP box which is used everyday and my actual work/games box and MP functions on both of them flawlessly.

Most people here buy dedicated boxes simply because they want software that goes beyond MCE2005. Believe it or not, while stable it is VERY limited and has almost no configurability. MP pretty much requires identical hardware to the MCE2005 software so there is no problem going from here to there if users wish later on. MP does give people a little more freedom though with their config's unlike MCE2005.

Providing your PC meets the requirements, there are ways for the developers to inspect your PC (VNC for example) but thats providing they are still in good cheer (this thread is more of a rant now rather than any support). Lastly, Ill just repeat what others have said, if your having trouble please ask for it, theres little point building up anger over 6 months and then having a spew.

 

[moltas]

I see I was wrong so, what´s the point of getting a new machine just to have MP? If I purchased a dedicated one I´d simply have MCE 2005, which, at least, is stable and reliable.

Where on earth have you got that MCE 2005 is stable and reliable?? There is numerous posts on the net where people have major problems with their MCE installation, even when they have verified hardware.

A swedish PC mah recently tested several Media solutions and MP was the one that got recommended even though the MCE 2005 was in the test as well.

I realize that formating your PC can feel as a sh**ty soultion but since so many users of MP have the same (or similar) system as you there is a good chance that the problem is on your end. Trying to figure out what program, driver, codec etc it is is hard. It's hard enough if you sit at the PC physically but near impossible to solve through a forum.

If you really come to the conclusion that MP isn't what you are looking for it's a shame. MP is without comparison the best system for your HTPC.

IMHO,
Moltas

 

[ethanx]

Well, I´ve just installed MP on a freshly formatted system, only to find out MP wont work as usual, as I expected. Now, I´d say, it´s even worse, cause I cant even run the setup correctly, it keeps crashing all the time. Right now in my system I got: WinXP SP2, Divx 5.2.1, Xvid 1.2, AC3 Filter, Nvidia PureVideo Decoder and, of course, the Fu.... MP!
"What´s next step to try", according to you, MP experts?
I just wanna add I dont care much about configurability, all I want is reliability and stability. I cant stand being at work and being wondering whether MP is recording my favourite programmes or not. My parents have MCE 2005 and they always say they´re really happy with it.

 

[Smirnuff]

"What´s next step to try", according to you, MP experts?

Give somebody access to your PC via VNC and see if they can figure out what your issues are...

 

[BoelShit]

WinXP SP2, Divx 5.2.1, Xvid 1.2, AC3 Filter, Nvidia PureVideo Decoder and, of course, the Fu.... MP!
"What´s next step to try", according to you, MP experts?

Did install .NET 2, did you? Just asking, don't see it in your list!

 

[ronilse]

Well, I´ve just installed MP on a freshly formatted system......

The user manual to your motherboard says you should use Memory module of PC2700 as highest standard.

Have you tried to remove the PC3200 memory module?

Regards
Roy