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druid9

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    Dittsche

    The overclock link I provided is based on an ASRock utility but seems to work fine on my Acer Revo 3610. Overclocking at your own risk of course. Not sure what you mean by a separate overclock for ION as opposed to Atom. A lot of the stutter I experienced seems to have come from latency, and disabling the wireless fixed a lot of that though some is still present. With the latency checker, I now have only green bars. I should have mentioned I also disabled the NVidia HD Audio device, breaks audio over HDMI, but my system goes optical out to my Receiver so that is not a huge issue.

    @Cousin Jerry

    Welcome aboard, I have seen you lurking around similar threads to me, and with similar issues, hopefully we can sort out a solution. I found before making my last lot of changes, that skipping to the end of the TV Stream solved the stutter issue for yet another period of time, almost like the playback was getting further and further behind until stutter kicked in. Could be linked to this comment by Owlsroost in another thread

    "If the render 'clock' of your PC is slightly faster than the broadcast stream 'clock' then the amount of data in the buffer will very slowly decrease until it's essentially empty.

    I'd always assumed that MP has some way of detecting/dealing with this situation, but maybe it doesn't always work ?

    Tony"

    I watched an hour of live TV last night after I had made the few changes listed above and did not experience the issue. Have not updated to Owlsroost dshowhelper.dll since I made these changes, will do so and report back

    robyf

    MPC (Gabest) was the only codec I could use to get reasonable SD LiveTV without stutter. DXVA not needed in this case I think? Will certainly try your PowerDVD solution, but I thought in SAF5 it was now Powerdvd10? I do use PowerDVD for Video, and sometimes ffdshow DXVA also for video with good results, my issue is only with LiveTV.

    @all

    Seems like we have some interest. My gut feeling from my research and from comments by Dittsche and others is that the issues are due to network problems. As I mentioned above, disabling Wireless Networking improved matters considerably, but still some way to go, particularly with HDTV for me. The problem is that I think the ethernet driver is bound up in ION chipset driver, and I don't know if there is any way to change that. My own case is an Acer Revo 3610 conected by ethernet to a router and thence to my TV Server box. The Server Box also has all of my videos and movies on it mostly stored in AVI (some MKV). Playback of these is flawless, but .ts streams over the network appears to be where the issue lies. Owlsroost confirmed that the issue is likely performance rather than MP in this thread https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/general-support-51/livetv-problem-after-one-hour-86423/

    Lets keep working on it, and thanks for your interest.
     

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    @Robyf

    MPC (Gabest) was the only codec I could use to get reasonable SD LiveTV without stutter. DXVA not needed in this case I think? Will certainly try your PowerDVD solution, but I thought in SAF5 it was now Powerdvd10? I do use PowerDVD for Video, and sometimes ffdshow DXVA also for video with good results, my issue is only with LiveTV.

    You can also install an old trial of powerdvd9 and use the codec. It's the one that gives best results to me with ION (speaking of H.264, for SD TV Microsoft works really good in my configuration).
     

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    Ok, seem to have most of my issues sorted.

    @Cousin Jerry
    Did you try disabling your wireless in Control Panel, this alone solved a great number of my issues.

    robyf

    Thanks for the recommendation on Powerdvd, have installed SAF5.00 and am currently using Powerdvd10 for LiveTV, seems stutter free. Need to ensure DXVA for Mpeg2 is ticked in Powerdvd settings within MP, but this is turned on by default with SAF

    @all

    I hope some of these suggestions resolve stuff for you, if anyone needs help with how my Revo is setup, please let me know. I have actually turned off the overclock at present and seem not to have issues. I did have a couple of problems with Mediaportal crashing at any speed above 1800. Next step is to retry owlsroost's dshowhelper to see what effect if any that has, otherwise, for now I am happy with how everything is working.
     

    Cousin_Jerry

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    Ok, seem to have most of my issues sorted.

    @Cousin Jerry
    Did you try disabling your wireless in Control Panel, this alone solved a great number of my issues.


    I didn't yet but have been meaning too. Will try to remember to tonight.

    As a side note, this weekend I installed a new entertainment unit and had to unplug the Revo for a couple days while I worked. Turned it back on Sunday night and it seems to be doing much better. Do major dropped frames yet.

    Will test more in the next few days, maybe its just a fluke?
     

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    Has any one got a decent set of codecs to recommend to me?

    I'm a man that likes tinkering but this is getting to me now!!
     

    druid9

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    Here is what I have:

    SAF 5.00, with the following settings.

    Don't need CoreAVC Probably, but I bought it so I use it.

    This is working for me right now, but it took a bit of tinkering to settle on it. What I thought were codec issues were actually network issues for Live TV as mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

    Good Luck, and if you find something better let us know
     

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    Here is what I have:

    SAF 5.00, with the following settings.

    Don't need CoreAVC Probably, but I bought it so I use it.

    This is working for me right now, but it took a bit of tinkering to settle on it. What I thought were codec issues were actually network issues for Live TV as mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

    Good Luck, and if you find something better let us know

    thnx for the screens, everything is working also Full HD 1080?

    lets keep the best codec settings in this thread!
     

    clarkey2r

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    I have a copy of coreavc and I dont think MP allows it to do full hardware decoding, it works in media player (the little 8 ball goes green) but not in MP (ball stays blue)!!

    Anyone else noticed this??

    I have set my MP codecs up exactly as druid9 and mine wont play 1080p, video is jerky and sound is way out of time!!!
     

    MageMinds

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    I have a Zotac ION ITX-F-E board and I have CoreAVC codec working with the "8" ball green in MediaPortal ... I can play high bitrate 1080p video file without any problem ... Everything is in sync even if I skip forward or backward, play pause, start from the middle... The good thing about CoreAVC is full subtitle support directly from MP. ffdshow have subtitle support for DXVA, but I prefer MP to control the subtitle.

    As for your liveTV problem I can't you all, because I don't have LiveTV, who need LiveTV anyways with High Speed Internet? Usenet is my TiVo...

    The ION board are great, but they are slow when you have a heavy skin enabled and a lot of plugins... A SSD might help with the speed though...

    I love my Zotac, it's silent and efficient... I've put a Asus Xonar PCIe Sound card in it... The onboard sound card didn't deliver what I want in term of sound quality, the Xonar did!

    MageMinds
     

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