Automatic Refreshrate Changer (2 Viewers)

[HomeY]

I would recommend people don't try the built in refresh changer as it gave me my first Windows blue screen in years!

Are you sure that those bluescreens are coming from the RRC?
Very curious because i'm experiencing random bluescreen (once in a few days) and get an instant reboot so i can't collect MP logs

BSOD is for 99.99% of the time caused by either

1) buggy drivers
2) faulty hardware

Applications itself cannot cause BSOD, all they can do is to expose those two possible faults. So, the recommendation to not to use RRC is just plain wrong.

TNX for the reply tourettes, and exactly what i was thinking.
The only strange thing is that i never had BSOD before, didn't change any hardware the last year (except GPU last weekend, but had BSODs before that) and already tested RAM for a few hours.

I've been having BSOD since upgrade to 1.0.1

Well, at least we can assume that it's not on the MediaPortal side. Maybe i'll try a clean OS install with new drivers to figure out what's going on.

 

[kenwonders]

I would recommend people don't try the built in refresh changer as it gave me my first Windows blue screen in years!

Are you sure that those bluescreens are coming from the RRC?
Very curious because i'm experiencing random bluescreen (once in a few days) and get an instant reboot so i can't collect MP logs

BSOD is for 99.99% of the time caused by either

1) buggy drivers
2) faulty hardware

Applications itself cannot cause BSOD, all they can do is to expose those two possible faults. So, the recommendation to not to use RRC is just plain wrong.

I don't think you're getting what I mean by that. The RRC is great but I suggest you be wary of the inbuilt changer (ie not running an external batch file to pstrip or dc). The only blue screen I have had in 4 days of using Windows 7 was the first time i tried RRC with the inbuilt changer. I'm perfectly aware that the app itself is not to blame, but we're talking about a win32 call on an unsupported OS that hasn't been tested like it has for Vista or XP with brand new 9.4 ATI drivers. Powerstrip has been changing refresh rates without issue but if I go back to the internal it gives a blue screen when I go into MP. Can't say much more than that really. If you're curious I could make that happen again and note the specific error.

 

[rtv]

I'm perfectly aware that the app itself is not to blame, but we're talking about a win32 call on an unsupported OS that hasn't been tested like it has for Vista or XP with brand new 9.4 ATI drivers. Powerstrip has been changing refresh rates without issue but if I go back to the internal it gives a blue screen when I go into MP. Can't say much more than that really. If you're curious I could make that happen again and note the specific error.

Well - triggering those BSOD is still helpful since the W7 RC sends all kind of information to Microsoft. If they get enough error reports about crashing ATI drivers they might report the issue upstream to ATI with the debug information your W7 collected.

 

[Plentman]

2009-05-13 00:25:09.296875 [Info.][MPMain]: RefreshRateChanger.RunExternalJob: running external job failed Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden

According to Google -> "The system can not find the file specified". So, make sure that you are providing correct file name.

Thanks for your answer, this is my problem, it can not find the file, but witch file? I have only install MP 1.0.2.

my system is xp32

 

[Prophet7985]

Hi,
I can confirm the BSOD reported from kenwonders.
I switched to Windows 7 RC a few days ago and after setting every thing up like in Vista I experienced a BSOD everytime I started to watch a mkv video. This Video has 720p@60hz my Desktop refresh rate was 50hz.
I didn't tested other files. It took me quite a while to find out that these BSOD are related to the ARC.

The BSOD seems to occur when I try to use the force option. It also seems that it doesn't change the refresh rate if you don't use the force option.

I have currently deactivated ARC and hope that this problem will be fixed because ARC is making Media Portal just so much bettter.

I use a Nvidia 9300 Onboard Graphics Chip so the problem seems to be not related to the ATI Drivers.

 

[morten99]

How to define additinal refresh rates ?

First post! Big thanks to all who have contributed to MediaPortal

I just reinstalled my htpc from scratch and with newer drivers etc. Before reinstall I had nVidia driver 182.something and there I had 60, 72 and 75 Hz refresh rates in 720p resolution and it was working fine the Dynamic Refreshrate changer and 12Noon Reschange.exe.

But now with the 185.something nVidia driver I only have 60Hz avaliable in 720p. I tried adding the -force switch but it makes no difference. I think the refresh rates need to be avaliable first.

How can get more refresh rates most easily ?

I would rather not install powerstrip if I can avoid it (trying to keep down the amount of software on this box).

 

[edterbak]

First post! Big thanks to all who have contributed to MediaPortal

I just reinstalled my htpc from scratch and with newer drivers etc. Before reinstall I had nVidia driver 182.something and there I had 60, 72 and 75 Hz refresh rates in 720p resolution and it was working fine the Dynamic Refreshrate changer and 12Noon Reschange.exe.

But now with the 185.something nVidia driver I only have 60Hz avaliable in 720p. I tried adding the -force switch but it makes no difference. I think the refresh rates need to be avaliable first.

How can get more refresh rates most easily ?

I would rather not install powerstrip if I can avoid it (trying to keep down the amount of software on this box).

Are you able to create a profile in NVidia Configuration Panel with the settings? If so, create them. Might be that after this 12Noon will work.
Regards,

 

[kenwonders]

First post! Big thanks to all who have contributed to MediaPortal

I just reinstalled my htpc from scratch and with newer drivers etc. Before reinstall I had nVidia driver 182.something and there I had 60, 72 and 75 Hz refresh rates in 720p resolution and it was working fine the Dynamic Refreshrate changer and 12Noon Reschange.exe.

But now with the 185.something nVidia driver I only have 60Hz avaliable in 720p. I tried adding the -force switch but it makes no difference. I think the refresh rates need to be avaliable first.

How can get more refresh rates most easily ?

I would rather not install powerstrip if I can avoid it (trying to keep down the amount of software on this box).

Are you able to create a profile in NVidia Configuration Panel with the settings? If so, create them. Might be that after this 12Noon will work.
Regards,

That's my experience also, if the refresh you require isn't in your normal list in the driver configuration (either ATI or NVidia) then DC won't work even with -force. I can only get Powerstrip to apply any settings, hence that's what's in use for me.

 

[morten99]

Are you able to create a profile in NVidia Configuration Panel with the settings? If so, create them. Might be that after this 12Noon will work.
Regards,

Woohoo, found it under the advanced settings - "Manage custom resolutions". Advanced in deed, i just wanted some more refresh rates.

Well, this is good fun, I created good 30p, 48p and 50p modes that all look good! It even tells the actual refresh rate (the 24p which i tried to make turns out to be 23.2Hz, but the 48 one is spot on, for example). And no extra software. Thanks again.

 

[johan_80]

can u repro this on a clean 1.0.2 ?

/gibman

After a couple of hours testing I think I found a problem. Never seen this before, but I'm not sure it is related to the Automatic Refreshrate Changer.

But sometimes the graph will not deconstruct when switching directly between two videos without letting the first video end (or pressing stop).

This can be verified by multiple Haali Media Splitter icons instances in the taskbar.
This will also cause ReClock to not detect input stream on new media.

Anyway to ensure that the graph is properly deconstructed (killed) when switching videofiles without stop in between?

Sorry for taken so long.
Yes, I can reproduce this on a clean 1.0.2.
But I can't find why (nothing out of the ordinary in the log).

Any ideas?