BDHandler Stuttering : Codec/Splitter Problem (1 Viewer)

[polarie]

Hi there -

as i posted in the BDhandler-thread i got some problem with some BluRay discs.

till now :

"Clash of the titans" (Kampf der Titanen)
"Horton hears a Hu" (Horton hört ein Hu)

(list will be updated if i got more)

@ those movies i allways got extrem stuttering
audio AND video

i tried SAF4 and SAF5 ...
also without SAF - instead of it PowerdDVD
(both movies run smooth @ PowerDVD10)

also a problem @ "Horton hears a hu"
is that the movie stopps @ 3minutes14seconds
bang - and MePo surface is back again - no error mesage or anything like that
seems the playlist of the stream parts was read/interpreted wrong.

so for now i think there is a problem with the splitter (a hint from Sebastii - thx again)

any ideas?
or anyone else with those problems?

Yes,

Here i have FFDshow Audio for all and Default Directsound Device.
Try to add FFDshow in Post-Processing in video config option.

Maybe after play with output setting section of FFDshow Audio (like connect to PCM first)
Also set in FFDshow Audio in DirectShow Control : i set the last one before none option.

Otherwise, it would be great if you can try with graphstudio and see if the same happen.

PS : Maybe we should talk on another thread if it's related to codec issue

i tried that - and it was a bit better for short time -
but the movie stopps also @ a bit more after 3 minutes


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[Sebastiii]

Hi,

Great for new thread
Can you post another log file ?
Thx.

 

[polarie]

AW: BDHandler Stuttering : Codec/Splitter Problem

thx for being with me @ sebastiii

log files of my testing machine i can provide tomorrow again from my office

here @ home i did also some changes by my HTPC

i am running SAF4 stable.
i installed PowerDVD MarkII over it - and changed (for a test)
ALL codecs in MePo to PowerDVD 10 Codec (upnp)

result:

i start Horton again ...
stuttering ... jump over that 3 minute point away
stuttering ...
let it run 20 or 25 seconds
skip back 15 seconds ...

runs smooth till the end ...

hmm so i see far far away that this is really a codec or splitterproblem

hope to get the "clash of the titans" BluRay again the next days ...
my neighbour give it to a friend for a couple of days so i have to wait.

by the way:

Kung-Fu panda runs now perfect from the begining...

 

[polarie]

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mornin´

does anybody know the difference between

PowerDVD 10

and

PowerDVD 10 (UPNP)

i just know that UPNP is a streaming thing between a server and a client ...
i 'll try now BluRay again by switching ALL codecs to PDVD (without UPNP)

allthought graphstudio shows no differce
when i use the UPNP codecs of PowerDVD10 it has less stuttering---
runs smooth ...

but with booth - the movie (horton) stopps after 3:14 minutes ...


EDIT:

what filter can i use to replace the MPC-MPA decoder filter ?

 

[Sebastiii]

hi,

I use ffdshow Audio for sound side. I don't know exactly the diff between PDVD10 and PNP.
I think Kung-Fu panda BD codec video is H264 right ?
And horton is VC-1 ?

Very strange, i don't know if you go on WIN7 you will see a diff. but maybe something wrong with DXVA outside PDVD soft.
Horton is a BD Seamless ? you can see it by open Bluray with BDINFO (maybe you need Slysoft ANYDVD) and 3:14 minutes it's maybe the first part of playlist.

Seb.

 

[polarie]

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hi,

I use ffdshow Audio for sound side. I don't know exactly the diff between PDVD10 and PNP.
I think Kung-Fu panda BD codec video is H264 right ?
And horton is VC-1 ?

Very strange, i don't know if you go on WIN7 you will see a diff. but maybe something wrong with DXVA outside PDVD soft.
Horton is a BD Seamless ? you can see it by open Bluray with BDINFO (maybe you need Slysoft ANYDVD) and 3:14 minutes it's maybe the first part of playlist.

Seb.

i don't know how to see the differnce between H264 and VC-1?
very sorry - how can i "see" what kind of code the BluRay is?

i send u a *.rar with the structure ... hope that helps


EDIT:

tried with all AUDIO-options to FFD - stutering more than ever

EDIT:

timeline is wrong @ horton

when i look Horton on PDVD10 the "stop-scene" is @ 5:35
MePo (or the BDHandler) cuts away some scenes OR just does not interpret it right
so the stop-time in MePo IS 3:14 ... in real-time (with PowerDVD10) it is 5:35 ...

 

[Sebastiii]

You can look @ BDInfo - Blu-ray Video and Audio Analysis Tool
With this tool, you can analyse BD structure and see with view report what king of BD codec is using.
Here it's AVC i don't why it's shuttering, when we look @ the playlist the first part is 02:22 long, so it's strange that it stop @ 3:14 minutes.

I don't know what you say

Maybe you can try to remux it with tsmuxer and see if after you have the same.
Seb.

 

[polarie]

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when does the second chapter end?
can u also see this...

(see my edit in last post befor yours)

 

[polarie]

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lot of testing today ...

my result (only for today)

MCP (which is needed for BluRay handling) makes the mistake
in this special case of "horton hears a who".

substantation:
when i use an older SAF with former version of MCP than 1287
the copied original BR file is played smooth and clear ...

handicap:
it can't handle a BR
(in combination with passkey or anyDVD-HD)

same is with PowerDVD10
(can handle BR but not useable out of MePo - only with hot-key plugin -> not what i want adn need )

if i take a newer one MPC - it can handle BR out of MePo (BRhandler)
but it plays with stuttering - and stops the movie @ 3.14 / 5:35

so far from here ...

EDIT:

by using SAF5 - it cannot play all my MKV movies ...
most of them wont play ---- MePo error --->AVC / MS-DTS problem (however i prefer SAF4)
AND very often non-syncron Audio Video (also @ live-TV)

 

[hoborg]

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EDIT:

by using SAF5 - it cannot play all my MKV movies ...
most of them wont play ---- MePo error --->AVC / MS-DTS problem (however i prefer SAF4)
AND very often non-syncron Audio Video (also @ live-TV)

You added FFDshow to MePo postprocessing, and this MKV have multiple audio strems inside, right?
If yes.