DVD navigation doesn't work (1 Viewer)

[ggt-labz]

With a fresh SVN and MPV & MPA, DVD menu's are still a pain for me. I don't see why this blatant flaw is not already in the bug tracl list??

For example with me, on one DVD the menu selection is not highlighted, on another if I happen to strike the up key, MP hangs (Ctrl+Alt+Sup and kill application required).

Couldn't any expert (where are they? I only see poor lost users lost around... in the support topic I browse...) explain what the option 'turn off DvVA supposed to cure' int the DVD navigation?

Please help!

BTW, I don't have these pure video codecs etc to play with how do you get them?
I have so many questions with so-called codecs too: so many as muxers seem irrevelant as codecs (try them and it does not work as you can imagine) in the list and nowhere in the documentation as it seems, it is explained how this list is populated (try for once to get to know your present codec list on a PC: as many answers as utilities you launch... have a look at my list below...) and why pick such or such, install new ones, etc... I think this is a subject to post...

Sorry if I get a little bit nervous but this is now ten days I spend endless hours configuring around MP in my new Media Center(*) and more and more one section lacks next to 'Why use MP?' and this one is 'Why not use MP (now)!'

(*) I purchased it for the end of the year. I knew it would not be easy cake. But now it just turns into a nightmare... I thought if would convince my wife and kids a Media Center is real high-tech fun. They only see a desperate houseman stuck on this unstable and error stuffed set I hereunder detail:

Hardware:

Box/case: Advance desktop HTPC 550W with IMon Inside VFD v. 0x2d
Motherboard: MSI MS-7309 - K9N6SGM-V AM2 VGA – Cipset nVidia MCP61
Processor: AMD Athlon64 Processor 3500+ MMX 3DNow ~2.2GHz
Memory: Kingston 1,024MB DDR2 PC4200
Hard-disk: Maxtor S-ATA 320GB 7200rpm TD 256MB
DVD Reader: LG 16X52X
DVD Burner: LG 18X Dual GSA-H22NRBBB
Screen resolution: 800x600 – 32b – 60Hz
Video board: NVIDIA GeForce 7100 GS TD 256 MB – details:
Gigabyte GV-NX71GS12P8-RH rev. 1.1 – S/N: 064600016
Video Board driver: NVIDIA v. 9.1.4.7 11/Aug/2006
Video driver: nv4_disp.dll v. 6.14.0010.9147 11/Aug/2006
Sound controller: Realtek HD Audio – driver:
RtkHDAud.sys v 5.10.0000.5294 6/Sep/2006
Tuner board: Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1300 (DVT-B, Multi-PAL, FM) – 96019 rev. C6A0
Tuner board drivers: all v2.116.24167.0 - 16/Jun/2006, details:
Hauppauge WinTV 88x Audio Capture hcw88aud.sys
Hauppauge WinTV 88x Crossbar
Hauppauge WinTV 88x DVB-T Hybrid Tuner/Demod
Hauppauge WinTV 88x MPEG Encoder (96xxx)
Hauppauge WinTV 88x Tuner
Hauppauge WinTV 88x Video (DVB-T+IR, MPEG)
Network board: NVidia nForce - driver: v. 65.2.1.0 11/Jul/2006
Remote: 43-key Hauppauge
TV set: Sony Trinitron CRT 100 Hz KV32FX-68B S/N: 6038425
Audio external: Yamaha RX-496RDS

Software:

BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. V1.2, 13/Oct/2006
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Virtual Page File: 2110MB
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Audio Codecs: v 5.1.2535.0 7/Jan/2001 MS_MMACM – details in codec order:
imaadp32.acm ADPCM v. 5.1.2600.2180
msadp32.acm ADPCM v. 5.1.2600.2180
msg711.acm G.711 v. 5.1.2600.0
msgsm32.acm GSM v. 5.1.2600.0
tssoft32.acm trueSpeech v1.0
msg723.acm G.723.1 v3.01
Windows Media Audio Codec v. 8.00.00.4487
Sipro Lab Telecom Audio Codec ACM v. 3.02
Indeo audio software v. 2.05.53
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec v. 1.0.0.0
AC3 ACM Decompressor v. 1.31.0.0
Microsoft PCM Converter v. 5.0
Video Codecs: v. 5.1.2535.0 7/Jan/2001 MS_MMVID –details:
ffdshow video encoder
Indeo® video v. 5.10.15.2.55
ir32_32.dll
ir41_32.ax Intel Indeo® Video v. 4.51.16.03
iyuv_32.dll Intel Indeo(R) Video YUV Codec v 5.1.2600.2180
Microsoft Windows Media Video 9 v. 9.0.1.0369
msh261.drv Microsoft H.261 ICM Driver v. 3.01
msh263.drv Microsoft H.263 ICM Driver v. 3.01
msrle32.dll Microsoft RLE Compressor v. 5.1.2600.2180
msvidc32.dll Microsoft Video 1 Compressor v. 5.1.2600.0
msyuv.dll Microsoft UYVY Video Decompressor v. 5.3.2600.2180
tsbyuv.dll Toshiba Video Codec v. 5.1.2600.0
Xvid MPEG-4 Video Codec v. 1.1.2
MPEG-1/-2 Codec package: from kLite v.281f – details:
Cyberlink- v. 6.0.0.3402
DScaler5 –v. 0.0.8.0
Gabest – v. 1.0.0.3
MainConcept – v. 1.0.0.78
Ligos – v. 4.0.0.77
Media-Portal Video Codecs:
MPV Decoder Filter
DScaler Mpeg2 Video Decoder
Nero Video Decoder
Nero DVD Decoder
Cyberlink Video/SP Decoder
Intervideo NonCSS Decoder for Hauppauge
PP MPEG Muxer
Cyberlink Mpeg2 Muxer
Nero Mpeg2 Encoder
Hauppauge WinTV MPEG2 Muxer
PP MPEG2 Video Decoder
Media-Portal Audio Codecs:
MPA Decoder Filter
AC3 Filter
ffdshow Audio Decoder
DScaler Audio Decoder
Cyberlink Audio Decoder
Nero Digital Audio Decoder
Intervideo NonCSS Decoder for Hauppauge
PP Audio Decoder
PP MPEG Muxer
Cyberlink MPEG Muxer
Nero Mpeg2 Encode
Hauppauge WinTV MPEG2 Muxer
Media-Portal Audio Renderers
Realtek HD Audio Output
Cyberlink Audio Renderer (PDVD6)
Default Directsound Device
Default Waveout Device
Directsound: Realtek Audio Output
Windows Media Player: v. 11.0.5721.5145
MediaPortal: v. 0.2.2.0
Antivirus/security: Avast v. 4.7 – Spybot v. 1.4
iMon Manager: v. 5.00.1009

 

[Taipan]

Here's some suggestions for you to try:-

Install DVD43 (Google for it) - to remove any copy protection as I found that can cause the symptoms you describe.

Try the option "Turn off DxVA" - it sometimes cures DVD navigation issues.

Try the CyberLink video decoder, which comes with PowerDVD (you can get a trial copy) - that one works best for me.

HTH ...

 

[Jack Sparrow]

Salut ggt-labz,

I dont like the using of k-lite codec pack ... they install tons of codec and risk to mess up the system. I prefere to have everything under control.

Can you try to do a REAL fresh install of 0.2.2 ??? then as Taipan said if you have problem try to Turn off DxVA in the configuration dialog.

 

[ggt-labz]

Sorry Jack for the klite pack but I will keep on with it for a moment as it is not easy easier to install codecs here and there and keep them under control as there is no central management under Windows for them.
BTW I really don't think the problem is here.
Where it comes to codecs I think even with MP it's a real mess. You don't know what is what: for example why do muxers appear in the list of codecs. Nothnig is really clear in the documentation as well. Perhaps nobody ever did anything to make this clear.
As I undestand it codecs transpose video and audio formats as MPEG 1, 2, 4, DivX, etc. So I don't understand as well why Codecs in MP are not sorted this way. I don't undestand too why most of codecs listed by Windows (MS_MMVID)itself are not in MP lists.
Again, enumeration of codecs (and related stuff as filters, mux, etc) is a real mess for me and MP didn't help in this.
That's also why I felt dry to feel out the Video/Audio MPEG2 codec type in my profile configuration with this forum: where do you pick that one? In a section of MP setup? Which one: DVD, Movie, TV?
And finally I got even confused with picking one codec in the Movie section as there are numerous coding schemes with AVI's. Is it a one fits all? Strange...

Thank you Taipan for your suggestion. The Cyberlink codec for DVD's does the job for highlighting menus. Anyway I still have the problem with MP hanging (not responding in Windows Task Manager) when I strike the up button on my Hauppauge 43-b remote with one of my DVD's. Oddly enough it works with the up keyboard key! Here is the MP log for records.

Thank you.

 

[wewe]

I also was havin DVD Navigation problems (and also problems with black screens sometime). After messing around a lot with codecs and other settings I did do a complete new installation on an extra partition (Windows & MP 0.2.2).

DVD replay works now. (unfortunately there are some other problems). I did not install any additional codec excepted what MP brought.

In my old partition I also had installed purevideo ... but I don't know if this makes the problem ... just as information.

thanks+regards
WeWe

 

[Doron]

Just wanted to mention I have the same problem here.
MPV codec, DxVA turned off, but no navigation highlight.
I noticed that the problem is with the highlight. If you can figure out what is supposed to be highlighted by the number of your clicks, then you know where you are in the menu and you can press Enter.

 

[smallyoda97]

HELLO

I have also a problem of black screen in reading dvd.

I use Mediaportal 0.2.2.0 connected on a videoprojector. All occurs well in 576P mode but when I pass in 720P mode, I have a black screen in reading dvd. On the other hand in video all is perfect

I join my Log file

Thanks

 

[mgl]

Just wanted to mention I have the same problem here.
MPV codec, DxVA turned off, but no navigation highlight.
I noticed that the problem is with the highlight. If you can figure out what is supposed to be highlighted by the number of your clicks, then you know where you are in the menu and you can press Enter.

Same problem here. Tested with newest SVN.

 

[Eabin]

so i had a quick look on the issue, and found out that the directshow graph is wrong in some cases. it seems that some (read: most comercial) decoders output the navigation highlights on a seperate output pin. if you take a snapshot from MP's graph with graphedit while playing a DVD, and manually play it, you can get usable navigation if you connect the subtitle output-pin from the decoder to a second input-pin from the renderer.

as "easy" as this sounds, i haven't yet looked at the necessary changes that would need to be done in MP to support those kind of decoders. but if noone else with better knowledge of the DVD code steps up to have a look at it, i will most certainly give it a try sometime next week(s).

 

[Olodin]

so i had a quick look on the issue, and found out that the directshow graph is wrong in some cases. it seems that some (read: most comercial) decoders output the navigation highlights on a seperate output pin. if you take a snapshot from MP's graph with graphedit while playing a DVD, and manually play it, you can get usable navigation if you connect the subtitle output-pin from the decoder to a second input-pin from the renderer.

Now this is some info! Thanks for your time to analyze this problem. I hope that you'll have the time to look into this problelm and submit a patch. I'd be happy to test it!

Some additional info:
In this thread somebody suggested that it could be the type of menu used: animated/not animated. Maybe that was more than a shot in the dark?