Experimental TsReader development (3 Viewers)

[Owlsroost]

Please try the attached TsReader.ax - it plays the test recording OK.
(and of course everyone else from NZ with the problem channels should try it too )

If the new TsReader.ax fixes the problem, I'd like to see some logs with a few channel changes between channels in the 'problem' mux, to get an idea of how long it takes to find the data it needs to re-start playback after each change.

Of course if it doesn't fix the problems I'd like the logs anyway

 

[mm1352000]

What value do you want us to use for the buffering, or does it not matter?

 

[mm1352000]

Set buffering to 0 and tested with LAV and Cyberlink PDVD 10:

1. Choice
2. Sommet
3. PRIME
4. Firstlight
5. TV ONE [off mux HD, just to double check]
   
6. Maori

Seemed greatly improved with both codecs. Logs attached.
Thanks!

PS: <off-topic side question>Is there a particular reason why the slow motion zapping option remains as a debug setting and enabled by default?</off-topic side question>

 

[Threarah]

I've just managed a dozen or so seeks from a recording made last night without any hitches using the attached tsreader, so its looking good I've attatched the tsreader.log file showing the seeks, followed by a few channel changes to and from PRIME. Note that I currently have that registry setting set to 800ms.

 

[Owlsroost]

What value do you want us to use for the buffering, or does it not matter?

It shouldn't matter, so zero (the default) is OK.

 

[Owlsroost]

Set buffering to 0 and tested with LAV and Cyberlink PDVD 10:

1. Choice
2. Sommet
3. PRIME
4. Firstlight
5. TV ONE [off mux HD, just to double check]
   
6. Maori

Seemed greatly improved with both codecs. Logs attached.
Thanks!

PS: <off-topic side question>Is there a particular reason why the slow motion zapping option remains as a debug setting and enabled by default?</off-topic side question>

The problem with the streams is that sometimes there are quite large skews between the video and audio - from your 'LAV' logs after each zap :

[2013-10-25 09:06:27,453] [1f870048] [ 9d8] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 2.575 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:06:50,875] [1f870048] [ 9d8] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 3.530 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:07:05,484] [1f870048] [ 9d8] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 1.311 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:07:17,343] [1f870048] [ 9d8] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 3.938 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:07:44,562] [1f870048] [ db4] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 0.812 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:07:54,375] [1f870048] [ 9d4] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 2.285 sec of extra video comp to start now !...

The 'extra video comp' values are basically the V/A skew - note it's over 3.5 seconds sometimes, which was creating the playback problem because the old 'compensation' limit was 2 sec - I raised it to 5 sec in the test version. (It's limited to avoid corrupted streams etc. from possibly producing silly values).

Re. the 'slow motion zapping option' - it's always been that way (and I quite like it, but I know some people don't) - personally I think all the 'debug' settings should be visible, or at least 'debug' mode should be a tick box in TV server config itself, not a 'launch' command line option.

 

[Owlsroost]

From Threarah's log - the spraed in 'compensation' (skew) values is quite large :

[2013-10-25 09:17:00,902] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 1.371 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:06,100] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 1.969 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:10,210] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 1.883 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:12,782] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 1.243 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:16,661] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 0.582 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:20,051] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 0.795 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:23,303] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 1.307 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:25,804] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 1.169 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:29,004] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 0.500 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:31,919] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 1.297 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:35,083] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 0.774 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:38,159] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 1.254 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:41,101] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 1.307 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:44,782] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 1.339 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:47,393] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 1.361 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:17:50,173] [14b2efe8] [1478] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 1.350 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:18:07,089] [1c50fe70] [1190] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 3.055 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:18:31,748] [1c50fe70] [1190] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 0.761 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:18:39,287] [1c50fe70] [1190] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 2.799 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:18:47,263] [1c50fe70] [1190] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 0.500 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:18:55,200] [1c50fe70] [1190] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 2.927 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:19:08,858] [1c50fe70] [ fcc] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 0.500 sec of extra video comp to start now !...
[2013-10-25 09:19:17,521] [1c50fe70] [13a8] - Compensation : ( Rnd : 0 mS ) Audio pts ahead Video pts . Add 2.570 sec of extra video comp to start now !...

....I wonder if the stream muxing is quite 'lumpy' ?

 

[FreakyJ]

slow motion zapping option

What is slow motion zapping and what is the alternative?! Couldn't find anything on the wiki during a quick search. If this is going to be to offtopic, please send me a pm with the answer

 

[mm1352000]

slow motion zapping option

What is slow motion zapping and what is the alternative?! Couldn't find anything on the wiki during a quick search. If this is going to be to offtopic, please send me a pm with the answer

Slow motion zapping is the thing that makes the video all jerky and slow for a second or so after you zap.
It can be disabled (so video plays normally) by using a debug option in MP configuration.
Run Configuration.exe with the /DebugOptions switch, then check under the TV section to find the debug options sub section. First setting is the slow motion zap setting.

 

[FreakyJ]

Thanks mm
On my pc there is nothing jerky it just switches the channels like a normal tv, but I won't go off topic any further. Thanks for the answer