Getting frustrated with stutter (1 Viewer)

[hey__me]

I am getting really frustrated.
any HDTV ATSC Video is nothing but stutter. I Believe I have tried everything. Better Antenna top TV Tuner, new Video Card. TS Reader log is full of late frames.

Is there any way of seeing if the GPU is actually doing anything with the HD Playback (CPU usage is 30-40%)

Video seems fine in WinTV. Just not in MP. Harddrive Thoughput? I'm running RAID 5 on a ICH10 Chipset with 4 drives.

MediaPortal Version: 1.1 (NOV SVN)
MediaPortal Skin: Blue Wide 3
Windows Version: Vista SP2
CPU Type: P5Q-EM - 2.8Ghz
HDD: 4.5TB Seagate Raid 5
Memory: 4GB
Motherboard: Asus
Video Card: ATI HD4650 1G
Video Card Driver:
Sound Card: Integrated
Sound Card AC3: Optical out
Sound Card Driver:
1. TV Card: Haupauge 2250
1. TV Card Type: ATSC
1. TV Card Driver:
2. TV Card:
2. TV Card Type:
2. TV Card Driver:
3. TV Card:
3. TV Card Type:
3. TV Card Driver:
4. TV Card:
4. TV Card Type:
4. TV Card Driver:
MPEG2 Video Codec:
MPEG2 Audio Codec:
h.264 Video Codec:
Satelite/CableTV Provider:
HTPC Case:
Cooling:
Power Supply:
Remote: Logitech 880
TV:
TV - HTPC Connection: HDMI

 

[x4mer]

I'm running integrated ATI 4200 with 128M SP mem, & a 2250, & HD ATSC. Playback has been very good for some time. The only time I had dropped frames problems was during the Saturday night 1080i NHL games. The latest SVN now has no dropped frames or glitches even on that program. All other shows, even before this SVN, had no noticable problems, & even the Saturday night hockey game was perfectly watchable.

In your Catalyst control panel, set (video options) vsync to always, deinterlace to auto, (3D options) anti-aliasing & adaptive anti-aliasing to application controlled.

Use the Vista built-in MPEG2 decoder.

Any difference, or were your settings already like that?

 

[kiwijunglist]

Is it mpeg2 or mpeg4 HDTV?
What codecs are you using?
Are they dxva compliant codecs?
Video card driver = ?
Have you set renderer to EVR? (XP use VMR9)
Run graphstudio to confirm what codec you are using, and copy + paste the directshow filter graph.

 

[hey__me]

I have attached the screen shot from graph edit.

Video is Mpeg2 I believe

Catalyst 10.1, Package 8.69

 

[kiwijunglist]

It could be the microsoft mpeg2 decoder causing the problem.

Have you tried a different mpeg2 decoder?

The refresh rate of your screen should be the same refresh rate as the source.
If your screen doesn't support the same refresh rate as the source then you should try with vsync = off.

You could also try installing unlocked saf (link in my sig)

There are also some known bugs with newer svn and evr renderer causing stutter, so it might not be your fault.

 

[hey__me]

I've tried playing the TS files in a different player, same problems in the same spots. So I would imagine it is a problem on the recording side of it.

 

[hey__me]

I have attached the TS Writer and Reader Logs
Sample Errors

TS Writer Log
08-02-2010 21:01:52.692 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 20390 ).
08-02-2010 21:02:34.557 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 26916 ).
08-02-2010 21:03:51.788 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 18953 ).
08-02-2010 21:04:12.79 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 24884 ).
08-02-2010 21:04:17.116 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 25461 ).
08-02-2010 21:04:23.815 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 25157 ).
08-02-2010 21:04:34.451 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 29798 ).
08-02-2010 21:04:34.516 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 28454 ).
08-02-2010 21:05:16.525 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 28440 ).
08-02-2010 21:05:16.543 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 24687 ).
08-02-2010 21:05:22.370 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 25308 ).
08-02-2010 21:06:09.690 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 20877 ).
08-02-2010 21:06:57.307 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 19747 ).
08-02-2010 21:07:43.441 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 22839 ).
08-02-2010 21:08:53.645 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 20265 ).


TS Reader
08-02-2010 21:18:11.119 [b58]Vid/Ref : 233.719, Late p-frame(12), Compensated = 0.900 ( 0.292 A/V buffers=00/14), Clk : 0.608000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.151 [b58]Vid/Ref : 233.753, Late p-frame(13), Compensated = 0.934 ( 0.295 A/V buffers=00/15), Clk : 0.639000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.185 [b58]Vid/Ref : 233.886, Late I-frame(02), Compensated = 1.067 ( 0.397 A/V buffers=00/15), Clk : 0.670000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.211 [8f4]Aud/Ref : 233.904, Late Compensated = 1.085 ( 0.383 A/V buffers=01/15), Clk : 0.702000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.221 [b58]Vid/Ref : 233.820, Late p-frame(00), Compensated = 1.001 ( 0.284 A/V buffers=00/14), Clk : 0.717000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.249 [b58]Vid/Ref : 233.853, Late p-frame(01), Compensated = 1.034 ( 0.301 A/V buffers=00/15), Clk : 0.733000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.286 [b58]Vid/Ref : 233.986, Late b-frame(05), Compensated = 1.167 ( 0.387 A/V buffers=00/16), Clk : 0.780000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.326 [b58]Vid/Ref : 233.920, Late p-frame(03), Compensated = 1.101 ( 0.290 A/V buffers=00/14), Clk : 0.811000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.335 [8f4]Aud/Ref : 234.032, Late Compensated = 1.213 ( 0.387 A/V buffers=01/13), Clk : 0.826000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.360 [b58]Vid/Ref : 233.953, Late p-frame(04), Compensated = 1.134 ( 0.292 A/V buffers=00/15), Clk : 0.842000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.390 [b58]Vid/Ref : 234.087, Late b-frame(08), Compensated = 1.268 ( 0.395 A/V buffers=00/15), Clk : 0.873000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.427 [b58]Vid/Ref : 234.020, Late p-frame(06), Compensated = 1.201 ( 0.281 A/V buffers=00/14), Clk : 0.920000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.456 [b58]Vid/Ref : 234.053, Late p-frame(07), Compensated = 1.234 ( 0.283 A/V buffers=01/15), Clk : 0.951000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.461 [8f4]Aud/Ref : 234.160, Late Compensated = 1.341 ( 0.390 A/V buffers=01/14), Clk : 0.951000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.490 [b58]Vid/Ref : 234.187, Late b-frame(11), Compensated = 1.368 ( 0.386 A/V buffers=00/16), Clk : 0.982000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.515 [b58]Vid/Ref : 234.120, Late p-frame(09), Compensated = 1.301 ( 0.303 A/V buffers=00/14), Clk : 0.998000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:11.539 [b58]Vid/Ref : 234.153, Late p-frame(10), Compensated = 1.334 ( 0.305 A/V buffers=00/15), Clk : 1.029000, State 2
08-02-2010 21:18:12.377 [8f4]Video Continuity error... 9 ( prev 9 )
08-02-2010 21:18:12.388 [8f4]Audio Continuity error... 9 ( prev 3 )
08-02-2010 21:18:12.795 [8f4]Video Continuity error... 7 ( prev 9 )
08-02-2010 21:18:12.797 [8f4]Audio Continuity error... a ( prev d )
08-02-2010 21:18:16.365 [8f4]Video Continuity error... c ( prev e )
08-02-2010 21:18:16.375 [b58]Audio Continuity error... e ( prev b )
08-02-2010 21:18:16.623 [8f4]Video Continuity error... 9 ( prev f )
08-02-2010 21:18:16.625 [b58]Audio Continuity error... 8 ( prev 0 )
08-02-2010 21:18:21.840 [b58]Video Continuity error... 8 ( prev 0 )
08-02-2010 21:18:21.842 [b58]Audio Continuity error... 5 ( prev 1 )

 

[hey__me]

Seems to be much worse when I am recording.
Timeshift and record folders are the same.

 

[jaymode]

I am also experiencing these issues with recording on my HVR-2250 and Qam recordings. Watching TV works well, but for some reason recordings display more of these errors in tswriter

02-03-2010 20:58:08.110 Recorder:Pid 8c0 , No PayLoad, Continuity Counter should be the same ! 9 ( prev f )
02-03-2010 20:58:22.155 Recorder: RECORD    Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 39312 ).
02-03-2010 20:58:36.870 Recorder: RECORD    Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 25720 ).
02-03-2010 20:59:06.963 Recorder:Pid 8c0 , No PayLoad, Continuity Counter should be the same ! c ( prev 4 )
02-03-2010 20:59:33.874 Recorder:Pid 8c0 , No PayLoad, Continuity Counter should be the same ! 0 ( prev 3 )
02-03-2010 20:59:34.481 Recorder:Pid 8c0 , No PayLoad, Continuity Counter should be the same ! 8 ( prev 6 )
02-03-2010 21:00:04.333 Recorder:Pid 8c0 , No PayLoad, Continuity Counter should be the same ! a ( prev 7 )
02-03-2010 21:00:13.413 Recorder: RECORD    Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 41892 ).
02-03-2010 21:00:30.774 Recorder:Pid 8c0 , No PayLoad, Continuity Counter should be the same ! 9 ( prev e )
02-03-2010 21:00:51.303 Recorder: RECORD    Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 42280 ).
02-03-2010 21:00:51.356 Recorder:Pid 8c0 , No PayLoad, Continuity Counter should be the same ! c ( prev 0 )
02-03-2010 21:01:54.844 Recorder: RECORD    Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 36715 ).

 

[tourettes]

Either broadcaster has issues with the stream (timestamp jumps can be caused from that) or the signal is really bad and lot of dropped packets cause the timestamps to jump.

TS Writer Log
08-02-2010 21:01:52.692 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 20390 ).
08-02-2010 21:02:34.557 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 26916 ).
08-02-2010 21:03:51.788 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 18953 ).
08-02-2010 21:04:12.79 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 24884 ).
08-02-2010 21:04:17.116 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 25461 ).
08-02-2010 21:04:23.815 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 25157 ).
08-02-2010 21:04:34.451 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 29798 ).
08-02-2010 21:04:34.516 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 28454 ).
08-02-2010 21:05:16.525 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 28440 ).
08-02-2010 21:05:16.543 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 24687 ).
08-02-2010 21:05:22.370 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 25308 ).
08-02-2010 21:06:09.690 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 20877 ).
08-02-2010 21:06:57.307 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 19747 ).
08-02-2010 21:07:43.441 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 22839 ).
08-02-2010 21:08:53.645 Recorder: RECORD Info : Program clock reference forward jump ( 20265 ).

Bad signal:

08-02-2010 21:18:12.377 [8f4]Video Continuity error... 9 ( prev 9 )
08-02-2010 21:18:12.388 [8f4]Audio Continuity error... 9 ( prev 3 )
08-02-2010 21:18:12.795 [8f4]Video Continuity error... 7 ( prev 9 )
08-02-2010 21:18:12.797 [8f4]Audio Continuity error... a ( prev d )
08-02-2010 21:18:16.365 [8f4]Video Continuity error... c ( prev e )
08-02-2010 21:18:16.375 [b58]Audio Continuity error... e ( prev b )
08-02-2010 21:18:16.623 [8f4]Video Continuity error... 9 ( prev f )
08-02-2010 21:18:16.625 [b58]Audio Continuity error... 8 ( prev 0 )
08-02-2010 21:18:21.840 [b58]Video Continuity error... 8 ( prev 0 )
08-02-2010 21:18:21.842 [b58]Audio Continuity error... 5 ( prev 1 )