methods of using TV server - discussion thread (2 Viewers)

[diagdave]

xbmc

I know you have been asked this alot in the forums previously. But will this new server/client idea work with xbmc. Do you need help with doing that or are people already involved. Since its been said it works via live555 it will be possible.

Cheers Diagdave

 

[Frodo]

I know you have been asked this alot in the forums previously. But will this new server/client idea work with xbmc.

Then you already have read the answer which is no.
XBMC is unable to playback RTSP streams.
Perhaps you should try to convince the XBMC team to add RTSP playback in xbmc

Do you need help with doing that or are people already involved. Since its been said it works via live555 it will be possible.

As i'm no longer active with XBMC (i dont even have an xbox anymore)
i'm not planning on working on XBMC.
They have good developers themselves which are surely capable of adding this in XBMC


Frodo

 

[Spragleknas]

Exactly what i mean, at this moment almost all broadcasts are in mpeg-2
and mpeg-4 is only used for demos or special situations.
It will take a while before mpeg-4 will be broadcasted on most channels.
frodo

In Norway DVB-T will ONLY be broadcasted in MPEG-4 (DVB-T will be introduced next year). I belive France uses MPEG-4 to.


Anyway: Keep up the good work, Frodo. Team Mediaportal is nothing but amazing!!!

 

[reagan+carter]

I belive France uses MPEG-4 to.

Just to complete the previous comment, French DVB-T is broadcasted in MPEG 2 since its initial introduction.

 

[kerpow]

Can the penguin come and play?

Every now and then this question pops up. Its the question of MP and Linux, but this has a new twist.

In the past (https://forum.team-mediaportal.com/showthread.php?t=11652&highlight=linux) some very good points have been made as to why MP is best kept on a Microsoft OS.

But with MPs new server client system, I think its relevant to ask the question again.

The bulk of the reasons (as I understand it) for MP not being ported to Linux is the 'ease' with which MS enables multimedia display via DirectX. So I see no reason to shift the client/player to Linux, but what about the server?

As this thread has already noted the server will not need to have a high spec. Would it be fair to say that the most hardware intensive part of the server software will be XP itself? Running a server on Linux (or any open source 'free' OS) should present savings to the user both from the OS licence and the hardware cost (just re-use old corp machines).

As I understand it, the only issue (and its not a small one) with putting the server on Linux is the support for TV/Radio cards.

If anyone is interested in this beyond simply putting the idea down, maybe we should start a new thread.

Cheers for reading.

 

[infinite.loop]

The bulk of the reasons (as I understand it) for MP not being ported to Linux is the 'ease' with which MS enables multimedia display via DirectX.

erm... you might though about that there is no developer around who wants/can port it?

getting it to work and maintain it on a windows OS is an extreme amout of work.
porting and maintaining it to other OS too .......

well. i guess you know now what i mean

if you want to port it, you are always welcome

 

[jawbroken]

As you said, the major issue is hardware support, particularly when it comes to TV cards which tend to be unsupported by manufacturers. I am not sure that the benefit from saving money on the OS license is worth the hassle, truthfully. That said, communication with MythTV has been discussed before, and this might be a viable option at some point in the future when communication methods have been agreed on, etc.

 

[kerpow]

Careful not to mis-quote me, I think you get what I am saying, of course I go on to say that the client could/should stay on MS.

.. you might though about that there is no developer around who wants/can port it?

If there is anyone, or any group that reads this and whats to start somthing, then lets start a thread.

One more question. Seeing as there isn't any DirectX in the server (is there?) what are the chances of the server running on WINE?

 

[samuel337]

Careful not to mis-quote me, I think you get what I am saying, of course I go on to say that the client could/should stay on MS.

.. you might though about that there is no developer around who wants/can port it?

If there is anyone, or any group that reads this and whats to start somthing, then lets start a thread.

One more question. Seeing as there isn't any DirectX in the server (is there?) what are the chances of the server running on WINE?

I suspect there's still a fair amount of DirectShow/BDA (part of DirectX) in it. In fact, its probably built around that, so unless WINE has got that bit covered (I originally wrote emulated, but then realised what WINE stood for ) it probably won't work.

Do try and let us know, as I'm sure there's many people wanting to try it.

Sam

 

[onkl]

As you said, the major issue is hardware support, particularly when it comes to TV cards which tend to be unsupported by manufacturers. I am not sure that the benefit from saving money on the OS license is worth the hassle, truthfully. That said, communication with MythTV has been discussed before, and this might be a viable option at some point in the future when communication methods have been agreed on, etc.

I'd agree. Whill the idea of a Linux server/MS client seems quite attractive to me, the question how to reach that situation with minimal Dev time/efford is another one. As a very junior (when it comes to experience at least) programmer, I'd guess creating communication protocol plugins for MP server and Myth server to facilitate interoperability would probably be less work and more fun, siince a random mix of clients would become feasable. (an existing Myth user with a server/client combo HTPC could install MP on his windows workstation and connect to the server, ec, etc, I'll spare this forum from my ability as a bizarre use case generator)
I understood that nearly every TV card supported in Linux is supported in Myth, so a ported MPserver won't do any better anyway.

Oh, and just to make sure, refering to some other active topics right now: I don't think this should have been implemented "yesterday", nor do I suggest these features are really important within the core-tread of development, so I hope our appreciated devs will not read this as part of a feature request nag.