MP2 alpha does NOT and will NOT support Windows XP. (1 Viewer)

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Let me clarify something.

This has absolutely nothing to do with cost of components or cost of the operating system upgrade itself.
This has to do with principle. I simply will not. In any century. For no amount of money or sex. run a service on anything higher than windows server 2003. (XP)

I don't care what "cuts" have to be made. You guys are playing MS's b*tch its simple as that. And thats putting it as lightly as possible for me.


Matter of fact I think that XP SP2 should be supported as well come to think about it.


The amount of bloat in the kernel that changed moving from anything higher than XP SP2 was just mind boggling. IIRC the kernel itself in vista can reach over 100mb's. (JUST the kernel)
Windows 7's SX driver system grows and grows and grows until the hard drive is completely full. What kind of insanity is that ?
The design of everything post XP sp2 was/IS considerably flawed IMHO.

Again. Playing MS. B*tch. -Lightly!



ps: see http://superuser.com/questions/1/why-does-the-winsxs-folder-grow-so-large-and-can-it-be-made-smaller for more info on the sxs issue.
My last and final win7 machine had a WinSX folder of just under 90gb's
 
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sorry onelegend I tried to be as polite as possible. But all of this is just mind boggling to me.
I waited over a year 1/2 for PiP capability. This is a total slap in the face to me.


Are any of you guys paid by microsoft ?
 
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    Let me clarify something.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with cost of components or cost of the operating system upgrade itself.
    This has to do with principle. I simply will not. In any century. For no amount of money or sex. run a service on anything higher than windows server 2003. (XP)

    I don't care what "cuts" have to be made. You guys are playing MS's b*tch its simple as that. And thats putting it as lightly as possible for me.


    Matter of fact I think that XP SP2 should be supported as well come to think about it.


    The amount of bloat in the kernel that changed moving from anything higher than XP SP2 was just mind boggling. IIRC the kernel itself in vista can reach over 100mb's. (JUST the kernel)
    Windows 7's SX driver system grows and grows and grows until the hard drive is completely full. What kind of insanity is that ?
    The design of everything post XP sp2 was/IS considerably flawed IMHO.

    Again. Playing MS. B*tch. -Lightly!

    To me that post looks like a big middle finger in the air. There seems to be no respect at all in the things the developers have been and are doing currently.

    You have three choises; Either use MP1 or other HTPC software that supports Windows XP or fork MP2 and add Windows XP support into it. Which ever path you may choise I would hope that you have a bit more respect towards the people who are spending their free time on something that you can use for free.

    ps. if you would be interested in the video & audio playback quality you would already be using Windows 7 on the HTPC. There simply is no room for religius like mouth bashing in the technical areas where the facts matter and not the personal beliefs.
     

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    sorry onelegend I tried to be as polite as possible. But all of this is just mind boggling to me.
    I waited over a year 1/2 for PiP capability. This is a total slap in the face to me.


    Are any of you guys paid by microsoft ?
    You are seriously suggesting that a new open source project supports a 10-year old operating system that isn't even supported by its vendor anymore because you have some principal issues with newer versions? I'd suggest that you do some research into the costs of supporting vintage software (which, ironically enough, results in the bloatware you hate so much), before insinuating that we are associated with Microsoft in any way like that. Please consider that we don't drop XP support because we want to screw the people still using it, but because it costs time, and nobody wants to invest that time. After all, MediaPortal is an open source project, so if you want WinXP to be supported, go ahead and show us the code. You can't force us to do something in our own time.
     

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    In other news. amazon offers free 2$ mp3 credit to everyone...


    @Lightning303

    I am one of those developers so no i wouldn't pay myself. Over the past months i've given my time just like everyone else here.
    But i did expect some love to go to XP SP2 at some point in time.

    Is that THAT terribly draconian of me ? , By the way XP is not just SOME 10 year old product. Its been given more than its fair lot of hotfixes and patches.
    Even to this day microsoft is still releasing hotfixes for it. The last being the certification fix which hit all platforms.

    To say its just SOME 10 year old product is just another slap in the face to me. But you guys go ahead and keep knocking down some of the people trying to support you all. Good luck with that.

    By the way, I actually think that win7 is a DECENT product (i think we can all agree vista was a POS) but I refuse to think its at any rate a huge improvement over windows xp.

    Oxan

    Yea im seriously suggesting that.

    tourettes

    I'm sorry you think that. I'm not trying to disrespect anyone. Especially developers of FOSS.
    But you also have to put yourself in my shoes too. After waiting patiently for PiP and the code to "mature" enough. One would have guessed that we could encourage MP to be used on even older hardware not forcing a majority of the userbase to upgrade their (in some cases ENTIRE) setups just for the sake of one app.
    To me this looks like we have gone backwards.

    But hey what do i know about FOSS??.. just some small time XUL developer over here. :p
     
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    Even the so called driver support has been compromised by vendors such as ATI and Nvidia for older products, so how in gods name are we supposed to work around that, sorry but you are asking the impossible with our limited resources, let alone the limitations of an older system, which needs hacks to work properly anyway.

    Please respect the statements that have been made regarding this and move on.
     

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    The most disappointing thing you´ve heard in your life? Sounds like you are really blessed...

    Seriously, there are a lot of reasons not to support XP anymore. If you want to have MP2 to support XP for whatever reasons, then just submit the necessary code.
     
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