Multilingual Teletext patch (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter arion_p
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Media Portal Configuration working now but unfortunately not Estonian letters - I tried all options from Latin to Hebrew and all are the same, there isn't influence to subtitles at all, maybe I'm doing something wrong?
Thats what I do: I enable from MediaPortal Configuration, Television, TV Client, Subtitle settings: Enable teletext subtitles and adding Estonian (est). Then Television and Teletext and default language: Cyrillic (and tried all others too).
Small correction:
There is an influence when I watching Teletext and choosing different languages (between Cyrillic and Greek example) but still there isn't any with correct letters. But for Teletext subtitles there isn't any influence.
Some examples from Teletext subtitles:
showing á, correct is ä
showing ú or ů or ¤, correct is õ
showing š, should be ü
showing ě, should be ö
Thats what I do: I enable from MediaPortal Configuration, Television, TV Client, Subtitle settings: Enable teletext subtitles and adding Estonian (est). Then Television and Teletext and default language: Cyrillic (and tried all others too).
Small correction:
There is an influence when I watching Teletext and choosing different languages (between Cyrillic and Greek example) but still there isn't any with correct letters. But for Teletext subtitles there isn't any influence.
Some examples from Teletext subtitles:
showing á, correct is ä
showing ú or ů or ¤, correct is õ
showing š, should be ü
showing ě, should be ö
- Thread starter
- #14
This patch is for teletext itself (i.e. when you select teletext from live tv) not teletext subtitles. Teletext subtitles are implemented in a different module and are not affected by this patch.
:sorry:
Arion
:sorry:
Arion
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- #16
According to ETSI specification, Danish is only supported on level 1.5 and up teletext decoders. Right now MP implements a level 1 decoder. However I can see from the code (not in my patch - it is existing code) that there is some special handling to show those characters when the regional settings of the PC are set to DK. I cannot test it but it should work. Then again it may have been put there in an attempt to make it work but in the end it didn't - I really don't know.
Adding level 1.5 support is in my plans, but first I have to make sure I can test it. Officialy no broadcaster sends level 1.5 data here in Greece (but I think one of them does even though they don't admit it). On the other hand there really is no point improving this patch if it is not going to be included in the svn eventually.
Arion
Adding level 1.5 support is in my plans, but first I have to make sure I can test it. Officialy no broadcaster sends level 1.5 data here in Greece (but I think one of them does even though they don't admit it). On the other hand there really is no point improving this patch if it is not going to be included in the svn eventually.
Arion
Too bad
But Teletext doesn't show correct characters too although it's not so big problem to me as subtitles.
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- #18
Can you please run some more tests:
1. Without the patch (or with the patch and language set to "Latin: en/de/sv/fi/hu/dk/it/fr/pt/es/cs/sk", i.e. the first option) going to teletext you should see the characters in the first column instead of the characters in the second:
¤ --> õ
É --> Š
Å --> Ž
Ü --> Ü
_ --> Õ
é --> š
å --> ž
If not can you make a complete list (like the one above) of what you see instead of what you should see?
2. With the patch and language set to Cyrillic: sr/hr/de/et/lv/lt/ru/bg/ukr/cs/sk, do you cyrilic characters or latin. Can you make a list like the one above?
1. Without the patch (or with the patch and language set to "Latin: en/de/sv/fi/hu/dk/it/fr/pt/es/cs/sk", i.e. the first option) going to teletext you should see the characters in the first column instead of the characters in the second:
¤ --> õ
É --> Š
Å --> Ž
Ü --> Ü
_ --> Õ
é --> š
å --> ž
If not can you make a complete list (like the one above) of what you see instead of what you should see?
2. With the patch and language set to Cyrillic: sr/hr/de/et/lv/lt/ru/bg/ukr/cs/sk, do you cyrilic characters or latin. Can you make a list like the one above?
Hi
Without patch ia have trouble with these:
look like a wrong font
æ = ä
Æ = Ä
ø = ö
Ø = Ö
I will try the patch a little later
Why wont it be added to the svn?
Have you read this: https://www.team-mediaportal.com/news/global/team_mediaportal_needs_help!.html
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Damn,
It dosent seem that I can use your plugin becourse I use ForTheRecord 1.4
And it installs a new TvPlugin.dll dummy
I dont know if there is a workaround for this?
isent it possible to make your patch as a plugin?
/Providers
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Do you know what font is used?
Then I could edit my font file so it will display "æ - ø" correct
/Providers
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- #20
providers:
It seems 4TR has its own copy of the Teletext window and Fullscreen Teletext window (actually it seems to be a direct copy of the one in TvPlugin).
There are technical difficulties to implementing my patch as a plugin. These are the same reasons that 4TR replaces TvPlugin.dll. Even if I can figure out how to overcome these technical issues, it is still uncertain if it will be able to work with 4TR unless it is targeted specifically for 4TR (it has to replace functionality embeded in 4TR and use services that are normally provided by TvPlugin which might not be available if 4TR is installed, or implementation could be incompatible)
On the other hand the developer of 4TR could just synchronize his code to MP official sources, which hopefully will include the patch some time.
Aside from that, if you could temporarily disable 4TR and test the TvPlugin.dll attached below to see if it works (I think I've found the problem with the original MP code). If it does I will submit the fix as a separate patch (it is very simple and will probably be included easily in svn)
- First time was in 2007, when the patch only targeted TVE2. At that time no one responded and recently the patch was marked as closed. Perhaps it was because of no support for TVE3.
- The second time it was when I started this thread. This time both TVE2 & TVE3 are supported. Still no response. Then the patch queue was closed and made private so I do not know if it is being considered. Now I cannot even update the submitted code - I have to resubmit it in the patch forum (something I was advised against because it might also lead to confusion).
It seems 4TR has its own copy of the Teletext window and Fullscreen Teletext window (actually it seems to be a direct copy of the one in TvPlugin).
There are technical difficulties to implementing my patch as a plugin. These are the same reasons that 4TR replaces TvPlugin.dll. Even if I can figure out how to overcome these technical issues, it is still uncertain if it will be able to work with 4TR unless it is targeted specifically for 4TR (it has to replace functionality embeded in 4TR and use services that are normally provided by TvPlugin which might not be available if 4TR is installed, or implementation could be incompatible)
On the other hand the developer of 4TR could just synchronize his code to MP official sources, which hopefully will include the patch some time.
Aside from that, if you could temporarily disable 4TR and test the TvPlugin.dll attached below to see if it works (I think I've found the problem with the original MP code). If it does I will submit the fix as a separate patch (it is very simple and will probably be included easily in svn)
I have submitted this patch twice in the past in the patch queue:
- First time was in 2007, when the patch only targeted TVE2. At that time no one responded and recently the patch was marked as closed. Perhaps it was because of no support for TVE3.
- The second time it was when I started this thread. This time both TVE2 & TVE3 are supported. Still no response. Then the patch queue was closed and made private so I do not know if it is being considered. Now I cannot even update the submitted code - I have to resubmit it in the patch forum (something I was advised against because it might also lead to confusion).